Daft Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) Haaay peeps! I'm looking to invest maybe in a high speed camera. Something that can shoot like 600fps or something. I dunno, that's a bit of a guess (basically, super smooth slow-motion) [Edit: Okay, maybe 600fps is a little/massively too optimistic.]. Do they actually do consumer cameras that do this? Pref 1080p. I'm a little clueless and Google only really turns industry level cameras so if anyone is in the know I'd really appreciate the help!! Edited November 26, 2011 by Daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Doing no research but having a hi-speed camera available to use at uni..I don't think so. I think to do truly super slo-mo, you end up having to go industry level. Maybe I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Hmmm, I think you may be right. I'm just wondering though because the industry level ones capture at an obscene rate, like 12000fps+, if there were consumer ones that did it but not to that extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caris Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 http://www.red.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Hmmm, I think you may be right. I'm just wondering though because the industry level ones capture at an obscene rate, like 12000fps+, if there were consumer ones that did it but not to that extent. Yeah, our one(s) can do a million fps I think. Why we'd ever need that is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) http://www.red.com Red cameras are lustworthy, but not particularly known for their ridiculous framerates. You may want to take a look at [Phantom cameras from Vision Research]. Daft, yeah, unfortunately, framerate isn’t a big feature on consumer cameras. And it seems you can’t afford the cameras I linked above . Come one, do you really need a house? Get your priorities straight . Some consumer cameras can go faster than 60 fps, but remember, each of them sacrifices resolution to do so. Looking at the GoPro site for example, the new GoPro HD2 can do 120 fps, but only at 848×480. At 1980p it can only do the “regular” 30 fps. But perhaps that’s all you need for your project? I’m pretty sure there are other consumer cameras (like point & shoots) which have similar features, but I can’t name them from the top of my head. If you are “serious” about “toying” with a profesional camera, like those Phantoms, you should consider renting, this may well be within your budget. For other people, as to why you’d want to shoot with such framerates: The above video isn’t uploaded by the original filmmaker, but I can’t embed vimeo videos. Look for the original upload here: And other Phantom videos here: http://vimeo.com/search/videos/search:phantom/st/3cd588c2 Edited November 27, 2011 by Sméagol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 Well, I guess I part of me asking was just seeing what state the technology was in and it's obvious now it's nowhere near a consumer level. I saw the Phantom cameras and they are slick but yeah, I don't want to spend that kind of money. Maybe one day I'll be able to write one off as an expense for a project... I can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Well, again, perhaps you should consider rental. I’d love to try out one of those cameras and make the typical water splashy video, even if it’s just for one day. I forgot to mention the other extreme though. You could also go the software route. Again, I dunno if that fits in what you have envisioned.. Obviously it won’t look as nice. Personally, I wouldn’t use it, I feel similar about it as I feel about post-processing 3D for example, but it could be a nice way to spruce up your Youtube videos with a much smaller budget. I was looking for a specific plug-in called “Twixtorâ€, but when Googling it I came across a video that showed a built-in plug-in for After Effects I believe? Anyway, this is the result of software slow-motion, perhaps you like it (I haven’t watched it on full-screen, it looks good at 360p.. Keep in mind the Youtube compression though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 But doesn't the video say it's filmed at 1000fps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 No, it’s just the video that’s in 1000 fps, well sort of. It was shot in 60 fps. The Canon 7D doesn’t do 1000 fps unfortunately, it would be great if it could, since its price is pretty doable. View the video on Youtube and read the description. In short: it was shot at 60 fps, pretty standard framerate, but in editing some bits were artificially stretched to 1000 fps, then slowed to the final speed of the video of course. The plug-in does so by interpolating the video between the real frames. So it just “makes up†a lot of extra frames. The film maker mentions this takes a lot of CPU power, which was to be expected I guess, but keep it in mind. He needed a few days to render the extra frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 Ah, K. That's what I thought you meant at first but the results a so impressive I thought NAAAA. Even more amazing that it comes with After Effects. Been using AE all day. Definitely going to give it a go. Thank you that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Haha, no problem. Was worries I crushed your dreams after linking those professional cameras . Look forward to your experiments then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 I was a little SRSLY?!! but yeah, didn't really know what to expect. I am a little surprised that there doesn't seem to be more frame rate options on consumer cameras, though. But I guess very few people would use them. Do you know if 60fps (in 1080p, although now I think about it 720p will do me if that boosts the frame rate) is pretty much the highest or if there are any ones that do more? I assume the higher the frame rate the better results (or less rendering needed) when using AE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) I was a little SRSLY?!! but yeah, didn't really know what to expect. I am a little surprised that there doesn't seem to be more frame rate options on consumer cameras, though. But I guess very few people would use them. Do you know if 60fps (in 1080p, although now I think about it 720p will do me if that boosts the frame rate) is pretty much the highest or if there are any ones that do more? I assume the higher the frame rate the better results (or less rendering needed) when using AE. I don’t know for sure, but I am pretty sure, that if your looking at good video cameras, all will only do 60 fps at 1080p or even 720p. (I’m talking about relatively cheap “video DSLRs”, but even the RED Epic seems to do only 60 fps). The ones that deviate from the norm are rare. I found the camera that was known for its high framerates: The casio exilim ex-zr100. It’s a point & shoot camera where the high framerate only exists for marketing reasons. It can go up to 1000 fps, but like I said, expect to sacrifice resolution for framerate. It does 1000 fps at 224x64. You have a few other choices, but at 1080p it only does 30 fps. You can view info here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2011/1/5/casioexzr100 The GoPros I mentioned seem to do 60 fps at 720 p, I think they’re your best bet. They’re cool little cameras anyway. Edit: Well, I’d recommend the GoPros, but they’re really specialised. If you want a good camera, you should look at anything from high-end point & shoots to entry level DSLRs. If you want good image quality, and you’re happy with 60 fps at 720p, go for something like a Canon EOS 550D or the newer Panasonic GH2. Those are excellent cameras for video. When I get a job, I’ll be saving up for the upcoming Sony NEX-7. These cameras don’t break the bank. Especially the Canon, since it’s a relative old camera now. Edited November 28, 2011 by Sméagol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Yeah, I shot my parkour video thing with a GoPro. They're pretty awesome. They always have that fisheye thing going with them. But yeah, I used my friend's so I might just borrow it off him again and mess around with it. Thanks for all that!! You've been loads of help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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