You know the picture canadian/aussie cigarette packs have?

[rokhed00]

no, sir, old age isn't a cause for the effect of death, natural or not.

 

So, you're saying someone who lives a completely healthy lifestyle could live forever?

[Fanelia]

you are saying that people may die because of old age. i say there always is a medical reason for people passing. the older people get, the higher the probabiliity becomes of such medical issues. there's always a specific cause, and never "yeah, he was old".

[rokhed00]

you are saying that people may die because of old age. i say there always is a medical reason for people passing. the older people get, the higher the probabiliity becomes of such medical issues. there's always a specific cause, and never "yeah, he was old".

 

That's exactly the same as listing a whole load of internal injuries when what actually happened is someone got hit by a bus. Of course there will be a detailed medical explanation to someone dying of old age, but the major contributing factor is the age itself.

[Fanelia]

so imagine someone old get's hit by a bus. are they just going to say 'ah yes, this man was quite old, no wonder he died on this here street". or is someone going to raise the issue of the bus driving over his head? can you imagine his family will be interested in how he died?

 

the same with some other old person of 100 years old who dies in his sleep. people will still want to know why he died, perhaps his heart gave out. but they will take comfort because these issues are quite normal at that age. doesn't mean nobody cares about them.

 

what are we still talking about anyway?

[rokhed00]

so imagine someone old get's hit by a bus. are they just going to say 'ah yes, this man was quite old, no wonder he died on this here street". or is someone going to raise the issue of the bus driving over his head? can you imagine his family will be interested in how he died?

 

the same with some other old person of 100 years old who dies in his sleep. people will still want to know why he died, perhaps his heart gave out. but they will take comfort because these issues are quite normal at that age. doesn't mean nobody cares about them.

 

Strangely enough the majority don't, they'd rather have a simple explanation than reams of medical jargon that they don't understand.

[Fanelia]

"cardiac arrest" or "sophication during sleep" both being reams of medical jargon that nobody understands...

 

this discussion has become rather nonsensical. it was about the government letting us know who's an idiot by having them walk around with prophetical pictures of their insides.

[jayseven]

"cardiac arrest" or "sophication during sleep" both being reams of medical jargon that nobody understands...

 

this discussion has become rather nonsensical. it was about the government letting us know who's an idiot by having them walk around with prophetical pictures of their insides.

 

generally speaking, in england at least, if you 'die in your sleep' it is considered to be enough information about the death. Sure you can ask and be told the specifics about the death, but perhaps it's a left-over from christian belief that this sort of death is seemingly more natural; something that does not reflect ill health in particular. Of course every death has a reason, but saying just this assumes that in some way the reason could have been avoided.

 

Dying of 'old age' is generally seen as the unavoidable end.

 

And as for this discussion becoming nonsensical and a little off topic - well to be honest it's still at least flowed from one point to another, which is more than can be said for some of the more chatty, larger threads that (imo) dampen the entire forum's spectrum of conversation and just swallow up several differing topics that could have made for a healthy thread. It's almost as if having a thread only a couple of pages long is a BAD thing.

 

^.. but yeah all that is probably a rant better off elsewhere.