Mr-Paul

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OOh this sounds interesting! Good luck everyone! Vote: no lynch

The problem I thought was that we couldnt communicate, so we presumed that whoever had the killing powers on the 'evil' side was just unlucky and killed the wrong people. You all say you wouldve noticed it, but you werent in our position, you knew. And we had to go along with things if evidence came up that someone was evil, because otherwise we would be marked as evil, then lynched. IMO it was unbalanced because you had the advantage of being able to communicate and kill, like a normal mafia can, but also had the tag of good, which protected you. I think more hints to there being a good mafia should have been made. Good game anyways. Just couldve been implemented a bit better. There was too many good people.

That's a bit annoying. Clever twist to the game, but tbh, i feel it was a bit unbalanced.

Dammit. All the people i suspected of being good mafia were good mafia. I don't quite understand, how did they win?

It's not a school night, i'm on easter holidays! Basically, it's not gonna go anywhere unless people like Haggis, Gaggle, Volcom and Martinist come in and take a side on this argument. Otherwise, this arguing will just go on until Tellyn and Cube end the day.

Dom, i've supported this theory since the beginning, and did contribute things earlier. I'm arguing it so much now because I actually have time and am trying to distract myself from homework lol. I haven't been arguing it all 10 pages because I have an outside life too, with several parties over the last few nights.

I could also say that you are ignoring parts of my posts and twisting it to your point of view. If we don't reach conclusions from our theories, we will go NOWHERE. Yes, it is a fact that there is someone called the evil don, but what can he do? Nothing. Us evil people can not communicate. We cannot kill. We are basically a town. The good can communicate. They have a killer. They are basically a mafia. The roles have been reversed Hellfire. I think we have basically proven it over the last 10 pages.

Hellfire, we have nothing but speculation to go on. Esequiel is our strongest lead as it seems he claimed to be neutral to distance himself from being in a good mafia. He also withheld potentially useful information. He has an inconsistent story. If you are good Hellfire, he is a threat to you if he is neutral. If he is good, he is in a group with you, most probably. Here is who I suspect to be on each side. Good mafia: darksnowman DomJcg Dyson Esequiel Hellfire Zell Neutrals: Oxigen Waste The fish Mundi Evil: Myself Nintendohnut Vicar Unknown (probably evil/neutrals): Gaggle64 Haggis Martinist Volcom Welsh Gamer I've admitted to being evil, why don't you vote for me? It's because you know you won't get a majority as you are in a 'good' mafia with only 5 or 6 people on your side.

But what if they are just sending the one person to avoid suspicion? Who says Tellyn and Cube made it so only one of them at a time can have killing powers and that the killing powers/agent status are passed on when the current agent dies? We don't know. To me, they are working like a mafia. Hellfire, can you explain to me why you are reluctant to lynch Esequiel. The only reason I can think of that you are defending him is that you are part of a group with him.

And if a good agent knows who is good and who is bad, they are basically a mafia. Your own words prove it.

Sorry, my mistake! I'm confusing this game with the other game I think!!

Well I decided to take the risk and come out as evil. I believe that there is a good mafia. And I believe that the majority is evil. So I'm not afraid to be known as evil. We just need a few more votes for Esequiel to prove that he has been lying to us. The problem is, we have around 7 people who havent voted. I believe that all/most of the good mafia have now voted for either Nintendohnut or Mundi, so it's upto those who are left. Which hopefully, are evil/neutral.

Argh, this again is going nowhere. Ok, I'm going to admit, it was probably obvious from the side of the argument that I'm arguing, that I am EVIL. Hellfire, you say there is a good 'group' and then good townies who arent part of the group. There is a massive flaw in your argument here. No 'good' people have been night killed by the 'agent'. This would mean that the 'agent' knows everyone who is good. You say it's because a good person would not kill a good person, but the problem is, the 'agent' would not know if a person is good unless they are in his group. If we go with your theory, you are basically saying that there is a good group who knows who everyone good is, not just who is in the group. This would make the game awfully unbalanced. If there is a good mafia, ALL people marked as good are in it.

This conversation is just going round and round in circles with the same people. We need the inactive members to come in and make a decision. This is how things are from my perspective: 1) Possibility of 'good mafia' comes up : Only 3 good deaths, 11 mafia deaths, no regular mafia night kill, regular good 'agent' kill - two bullets. People such as hellfire argue "why would a good agent kill good people?" - because in a normal mafia game, 'good' players don't know who is who. In this game, the 'agent' has only killed 'evil' and neutral people. Coincidence? I think not. His kills have been regular and has just been killing people not in his group in my opinion. 2) People who have been identified as good try to distance themself from being good in fear of being identified as a mafia - DomJcg, darksnowman 3) Esequiel claims the role of Horatio Cane, a good character from CSI Miami, and claims that he is neutral. If he wasn't in a good mafia, would he have claimed to be neutral? Surely it is better to claim to be good? He also provided an inconsistent story and withheld information which could have helped earlier. Also, he says he has info which he will reveal when there are 8 votes against him? Why not reveal something now? All he has done is vote for the people accusing him, but if he has information on supposed 'mafia' members, why hasnt he revealed it? Surely that is a better tactic than just voting for someone who has voted for you. Lynching Esequiel will show if he is neutral, as he says, or if he is good, which he denies. If he is good, it will show he was scared to be identified as good as the secret of the 'good mafia' will probably be revealed. @ the supposed good guys, Dom, Hellfire etc. : If he isn't good, and is indeed neutral as he claims, then why are you defending him? He has a different win condition to you, he is neutral, not good. He is no help to you, he has his own goals. The only reason I can see for you defending him is that he is part of a group that I believe that you are all in, and that if he is lynched, it will expose you. If you guys aren't in a good mafia with Esequiel, why not lynch Esequiel? If he dies and is neutral, it will clear your names and help destroy the claim of a good mafia. Surely it is worth sacrificing one neutral to clear your names as possible members of a good mafia? PLEASE INACTIVE PEOPLE, SHORTY, THE FISH, GAGGLE, etc., please come on here and make a decision one way or the other, because we're just going around in circles otherwise.

Noone told me to say this Esequiel. I'm working on my own here. And i feel it's necessary to find out if there is indeed a good mafia. And even you are neutral, you are a threat to both sides, so are worth lynching. And anyways, the "mafia" can't communicate.

At the moment we're not really going anywhere. It's just the same people discussing it over and over again. We need people like The fish and Shorty and all those who havent been posting much to come in and make a decision. Peoples, lynching Esequiel will prove if there is a 'good' mafia or not. If he comes up as good, that is proof there is one. If he is a neutral as he says he is, that is a threat gone for the town. If he is neutral, he is not on your side. So it doesn't do any harm to lynch him.

I feel that we need to lynch Esequiel to find out whether this 'good mafia' theory is true. If he is lynched and he is good, not neutral as he has claimed, this will prove the existence of a good mafia, as noone would claim neutral if they are actually good. From there, we may have several targets in darksnowman, DomJcg and Zell.

The good guys are the mafia theory came from the statistics that 11 'evil' have died, and 3 'good' have died. In a mafia game, there is no way that there would be 11 mafia members dead and the game still continuing. This had led to the theory that the good are the actual mafia in this game.

Your story doesn't add up Esequiel. I saw we lynch him, then try to find out more about darksnowman and DomJcg, as I suspect them to be in the good mafia. Vote: Esequiel

I believe that the good is the actual mafia. Darksnowman, you say that the good side have the James Bond character to kill people to balance things out with the evil side, but seeing that the 'Evil side' can't communicate, and so many evils have been killed, it makes it seem to me that 'evil' is the town and 'good' is the mafia. James Bond must be in some sort of group/mafia, otherwise his kills would be based on luck, and as far as I know he has only killed evils/neutrals, which means he must have just selected people outside his group who are a threat, or has been very very lucky. To me, the good side is definitely mafia.

If these numbers are true, the good must be the mafia then. There's no way there would be 11+ people in a mafia usually.

Now for the silliest pictures of me i've ever posted on here. From my girlfriend's Dr Seuss themed birthday partayyyyy! We were thing 1 and thing 2 from Cat in the hat! Blue hairsprayyy Chocolate faces Then somehow this happened.... GET OFF MY HAT! Thank god for wine! It was a fun partayyy. Silly me and my willingness to do anything my girlfriend wants!

Ell, I think Dom said that he is not Top Cat. He said he's a 'better animated cat'. Which led us to believe him and you are Itchy and Scratchy. Is this true?

Maybe one of them wins when the other one dies? But if they are them, why would Dom be referring to himself as TC? Good theory though.