Savour the Wii U and Vita they are the new Dreamcasts?!

[liger05]

Loved the DC. Seeing the graphics for the first time was like seeing your first rainbow.

 

Similarities begin and end here:

 

 

Yes. First time I saw Sonic blew me away but Soul Calibur was something else.

I don't quite agree with this. Just because Nintendo's flimsier titles don't grab me, that doesn't mean I want anything pretentious. There's a middle ground. For example, I said in another thread that many of us became gripped with Nintendo because of the immersive, atmospheric 3D worlds and stories (and yes, gameplay) present in games like Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask. Those titles weren't exactly held up as paragons of storytelling in the same way as The Last Of Us is, but gamers knew they were brilliant, and that's what counts. I don't want the wider media's validation, I just want to be enchanted again.

 

What I'm saying is that it's not a straight choice between "high-brow" or "light". If Nintendo continues to lose fans (and let's be optimistic - it may not), it won't necessarily be because everyone wants acclaimed, high-brow games at the expensive of things like Nintendoland. There's another type of gaming experience that many value, but others (including Nintendo) seem to forget too quickly

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I dont see why we cant have both. When I look at the DC and the broad range of Sega published games that were released I wonder why cant Nintendo do that? Sega covered many genres while Nintendo ignore many genres.

[dazzybee]

I appreciate it looks biased, but I don't know how else to explain that particular phenomenon. Nintendo just seems to be getting slated across gaming blogs/news sites (also a lot of articles like 'how to save the Wii U'), while Sony are often being praised. Even though both have a struggling piece of hardware.

 

I think maybe because home consoles are deemed the more important, the more gamer-focussed maybe piers of kit. Especially in the west. They have the biggest and, generally, best games on them, cost more money etc.

 

We'll see what happened I guess. But I have both the vita and the wii u. And a dreamcast actually

[Hogge]

I didn't have the time to read through the whole article, but here's my thought:

 

The Wii U isn't comparable to the Dreamcast in any way. Perhaps I'd go as far as to say it's comparable to the Sega Saturn, although I think that the Wii U has done better (Saturn sold ca 10 million units in 4 years, Wii U seems to have sold 5,5 million in 14 or so months).

The Dreamcast bombed for a large number of reasons. Firstly was Segas prior track record. They had released two short lived addons to the Mega Drive, which had pissed off both consumers and developers. Then they released a console which was hard to develop for, which they also killed off prematurely in favor of... the Dreamcast.

With the Wii U, EA have released a few titles and people whom actually mean something within that company remain friendly towards Nintendo. With the Dreamcast, EA stated clean and clear that they will not support Sega.

 

And the Dreamcast doesen't have a cult status because it was Segas last console. Not mainly at least. No, in fact it was because Sega made sure to give that console a huge and varied game library. Sega released every conceivable type of racing game (from literal arcade games like Daytona USA to Need for Speed-clones like Metropolis Street Racer to a fully fledged Gran Turismo competitor with Sega GT), RPG's, platformers, several different fighting games, sports games (allegedly better than the contemporary EA equivelants), stealth 'em up, flying games and whatever the fork Shenmue was supposed to be. They created new IP's and at least planned to bring back most of their old IP's (Shinobi for the PS2 apparently started on DC and a fully 3D Streets of Rage was in the works).

If Nintendo would get their thumb out and try to match this, noone would care about third parties abandoning it.

[pratty]

My thoughts?

 

Sick of it all.

 

This is actually one of the better articles about the Wii-U, and i totally agree with the closing statement.

 

But in general I'm sick of articles popping up telling us things we already know, and the inseccure, "I told you so", doom-mongering trolls that write them, gleefully putting the boot into a company that just tries to put smiles on peoples faces, without resorting to murder simulation. Yes the Wii-U and Nintendo's current profitability are struggling relative to previous sucessess. We know, I get it. Seems there is a competition though about who can paint the bleakest picture, or decribe Nintendo's plight in the most creative and snarky way.

 

I'm not sure when gaming become some financial spectator sport, keeping score of sales, share prices etc, it's a shame that Iwata's pay cut spoils my gaming enjoyment, oh wait, actually it doesn't. Let me know when the plug is pulled, until then I don't care.

 

Yeah, yeah less wii-U sales means less games, but there's already enough Wii-U games avilable and in the pipeline that interest me. The Wii-U could die tomorrow and I'd still have one. Why? Because I'm a gamer and it has good games I want to play, I don't care about being on the losing team playing Nintendo, I don't need millions of other people playing Wii-Us validate my personal gaming enjoyment.

 

If Nintendo would get their thumb out and try to match this, noone would care about third parties abandoning it.

 

Just on this point, unlike Sega at the time of the Dreamcast, Nintendo are spreading themselves across two platforms at the same time, imagine if all their 3DS games including 3rd party exclusives like Layton were on the Wii-U, the Wii-U lineup would be awesome.