Mokong Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 There are 6 ending and I believe they are based around the time taken to kill the final boss and places you visit in the 8th Chapter with your sister. K I'm on Chapter 8 now.... I've been in one place which started a cut scene.... so there could be more? Also you didn't accidently tell me I'm on the last chapter? (Note: Just speaking (typing) out loud this question does not require answer :wink:) Guess I'll have to go run through and backtrack through all of the rooms in the game now just in case
Gentleben Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 K I'm on Chapter 8 now.... I've been in one place which started a cut scene.... so there could be more? Also you didn't accidently tell me I'm on the last chapter? (Note: Just speaking (typing) out loud this question does not require answer :wink:) Guess I'll have to go run through and backtrack through all of the rooms in the game now just in case You will need to trigger 3 cut scenes. But I would advise don't hunt for them since the first ending you get is considered cannon.
Mokong Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 AH I would have thought you needed to find all of them to get the "cannon" ending.... well I'll just create a double save so and play on as normal, I've found one (won't say what) so we'll see if I stumble on another, cheers
Mokong Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) Righty game complete. Ending stats Ghost List 56% Time: 9 hours 58 mins 10 sec Total Score: 356475 points Rank E Gotta say I am pretty annoyed by the E rank Thought I did better than that. Guess time would be a big factor in the rank. The Ghost List too at 56% annoyed me a bit, was wondering how did I miss so many? Then when I checked the NightShop features I remembered this was similar to Fatal Frame 4 where there are a number of ghosts you can only get on a 2nd playthrough with the help of a new item Anyway as for the end of the game, firstly I gotta say I was a bit disappointed with the last couple of Chapters after the awesomeness of Chapter 7 when it came to the end I felt things just seemed to fizzle a bit, will go into more detail in spoiler tag..... Chapter 8 started off good. While it was basically a fetch quest I thought they would still keep the tension and scares coming and at the start they did in the Osaka house. I enjoyed having to find the kid-ghosts playing hide and seek and then fighting them. I expected something similar and more elaborate in the Kiryuu house as it was a bigger house and it was the setting of my fav chapter in the game. And because of that I also feared what could be waiting inside on my return. But it turned out to be nothing, no real puzzle no searching for clues, just take a picture of a wall to find it is a hidden door then fight the scary Long-Hair-Covering-Face girls *shudder* Then the last one at the graveyard was just meh. K there was a little puzzle with having to the shrine to exorcise the altar and you got a few fights on the way but still I hoped for more. I even went up to the altar place where I wasn't allowed to go to via the way you come from at the start of the game. Expecting some sort of cut scene or even an ambush of ghosts.... but nothing Chapter 9 then.....well granted it was the end of the game and there wasn't much else they could make you do other than follow Mayu and throw some fights at you but it felt drawn out a bit longer than it should have been. The mystery was pretty much all gone as you knew (or at least I did cause I been wondering when I would find the key for teh "Butterfly" lock every since I first saw it in what Chapter 4?) where you had to go. Though that final lead up in the cave was nice. Anyone try to kill all the moruners that came at you? I took out the first 3 but then decided to run away from the rest as I was worried about film stocks (though turned out I had over saved, haha) Had 22 Type 14 left, 38 Type 61, 40 Type 90 and 13 Type Zero When I got to the final boss I was still conserving film, as I was thinking "what is this is just the pre-final boss.... what if the actual final boss is Sae (apparently depending on what you did in Chapter 8 she can be.... I found this out after finishing the game...more on that in the "Ending" spoiler tag) So I fought him still using my Type 14 first before moving up to Type 61 and killed him with that. Basically I made the fight alot harder than it actually was As for the ending well....that was.... unexpected to say the least, haha. But was pretty cool I guess Firstly did anyone else go for the "Worst" ending? At the start of CHapter 9 when you fight off the ghosts that attack at the start, did anyone else think to go into the Shirne and try leave through the tunnel without Mayu? I knew this would trigger a bad ending and since it was the start of the chapter anyway I figured why not then reload afterwards and continue the game Gotta say I actually enjoyed it, was a pretty cool bad ending. You don't get a credit roll or stats with it though...you get a game over screen after it If you didn't go for it in game it is actually unlocked for you in the Movies section of teh Shop thing so you can view it there :wink: As for the ending I got at the end, I got the "Crimson Butterfly" (Cannon) Ending Was very weirded out by it I must say, seemed like such a sad ending I actually started to think I did something wrong and had gotten a bad ending. So once the credits rolled I hit google to check and found out it is the cannon ending. It is considered Cannon cause Mio appears in Project Zero 3 (along with some characters from the first game too) and the "Promise" ending which is the "happy ending" wasn't even in the original PS2 game. It was a new ending added for the Xbox versions "Directors Cut" so that explains why I guess why such a sad ending is considered the "true" ending.... though I still left wondering why Mio killed Mayu in the first place? If they maybe showed the ghost of Yae controlling Mio then it would have made sense.... guess I'll just imagine that's what it was *cough*also when Mio first laid on top of Mayu I had a bit of a pervy moment thinking "twin lesbian sexy scene?"*cough* Anyway in my search for what the conditions are for the different endings I found this... By doing 2 things, the ED's differ: 1-The events you see in Chapter 8 while you have Mayu with you. (At the Kiryuu House Projection Room, at the Kurosawa House Bridge, at the Kiryuu House 2nd Floor Passage -after inspecting the interior door-). 2-The way you defeat the last boss (Kusabi or Sae) After the first playthrough, not depending of the difficulty, if you do this way, you'll be able to see all the endings. (In Chapter 8, it's recommended that you save the game after 2 events occur) 1- Bad Ending (Mayoiga) - Run away through the Kureha Shrine in the last chapter (Even if you don't see this in game, it'll be placed in the video list) 2-New Ending A (Shadow Festival) - See all the events and fight/defeat Kusabi for at least more than 5 minutes. (New feature) 3-New Ending B (Frozen Butterfly) - See all the events and fight/defeat Sae without Fatal Frames (New feature) 4- Empty/Hellish Abiss (Utsuro) - See all the events and fight/defeat Sae with Fatal Frames (Another ED featured in the original game) 5- Crimson Butterfly (Akai Chou) - Don't see all events and fight/defeat Kusabi for at least 1 minute. (Original game's common ED) 6- Promise (Yakusoku) - Don't see all events and defeat Kusabi within 1 minute. (Featured in another version of the game)' I had already seen the "Bad" (Game Over) Ending out of my curiosity , and of course the Crimson Butterfly ending. The only other ending open to me as a possibility was the "Promise" ending where you have to beat the final boss in under a minute. Well damn that is hard. I wish they gave you a save point just before the final boss because yes I did go back and try beat him in under a minute and having to walk all the way from the save point just before going into the tunnel is a long walk. And I did it multiple times Finally managed it on the 4th attempt, haha. If you want tips to try for the Promise ending by reloading your file from before the last boss here's what I had/did... Lens Equiped: Red Lens -Fatal upgraded to level 3 6 out of 7 Spirit Points full (so I could use the lens twice) I used Type Zero film, had 13 in stock think I used about 5 to kill him When you get control of Mio back the boss is in front of you, The timer has actually already started but you cannot do damage to him yet, which is a bitch. You gotta wait for him to disappear then reappear. When he reappeared I locked on (remember using Type Zero film) and waited for a full charge I then waited for him to come close so I could go for a fatal frame. I reckon a Fatal Frame here is a MUST or you will not kill him in under a minute. I got a 3 hit combo Fatal Frame which sent him straight into Purple Second Wind mode. When he was Purple I locked on as soon as I could, waited for a full charge, baited him in a bit for a shutter moment (when the circle thing gets an extra red outline/glow...note: on my 3rd try I did wait to try get another Fatal Frame here but it didn't give the flash so I think he might not give it a 2nd time?) and took the picture using the Red Lens I had equiped. I then got another lock on him as soon as he reappeared again, waited for a full charge (didn't wait for the shutter moment this time) and took another picture with the Red Lens equiped again and this killed him I timed myself too and did it in 56 seconds, so there is ZERO margin for error. You'll know you got the Promise ending if when you run down the stairs a cut scene starts bout half way down instead of having to walk all the way to the bottom I have a save file left from Chapter 8 so I guess I could reload that and find the other two scenes I missed and then try finish the game from there to try get the other 3 endings (yeah I know could probably find them on Youtube but there's no fun in that ) But I reckon I'll still play through the game on Hard mode to A) see how much harder it is and B) to try 100% my ghost list. Also I read somewhere (while looking for ending info) there is a Chapter 10 (called Chapter Zero) on Hard and Nightmare modes and I want that Overall I fully enjoyed the game, will enjoy replaying on Hard mode next Though I gotta say I think Fatal Frame 4 was better, which is even more annoying that they never brought that out here (though I guess even more annoying for ye reading me type that as ye haven't played it, haha) Will definately be putting the HBC back on my Wii so I can give FF4 another go (when I finish this on Hard mode :wink:) FF4 was a much bigger game (even though it mainly took place in the one building....the Village in PZ2 ended up much smaller from what I expected at the start of the game), longer, few more chapters and I think the story was better in it too, few more playable characters with some good twists too. And it actually gives a reason for when ghosts go purple and get a 2nd wind (it's called "Blooming" in FF4).... and I actually think FF4 was the scarier of the two also. While PZ2 had some good scare moments and set pieces, I think FF4 has more and better stuff there's one moment in the game that stands out for me where you get attacked by multiple waves of ghosts and I remember playing it wondering if it would ever end. Think there was something like 4 or 5 coming at me at once. Here the most attacking ghosts at once was 3. Since more was done in FF4 and this was a remake being made after that I would have thought they would have followed suit and had more "ghost gangs". From what I remember FF4 also had more "chase" moments where you had to run from that games version of the invinceble one-hot-kill ghost. And when that thing appeared in FF4 it was terrifying So basically if you enjoyed PZ2 and have the HBC (and can somehow find a Jap copy of FF4, the patch only works with retail discs and no mine is not for sale ) on your Wii I say go for it. Edited July 14, 2012 by Mokong
Mokong Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Righty just started up Hard mode today, motored through the first 3 chapters in under 90mins Was interesting that you get use of the camera straight away which also meant you could now get pics for the Ghost List of those ghosts that appear before you "find" the camera. I got all of them expect the very first one that appears as you enter the Osaka house. I tried reloading my save like 5 times but not once could I even get the circle to turn blue so without that I of course couldn't get the pic so I just gave up. But I got all the others (very small windows of opportunity to get the pics on those) including the one ghost that I missed in my first play through (the one going up the stairs). Also found one extra ghost that couldn't be gotten on a first playthrough thanks to the new item you can get from the shop....found another in Chapter 3, but none in Chapter 2, wonder if I missed one? Also I spotted one thing that I didn't really "get" first time round.... will spoiler just in case. At the start of the game, the bit when you first have control of Mio before finding Mayu overlooking the village. You get a little cut scene of a woman in white saying "please forgive me". When I first played the game I thought it was the same woman who Mio saw Mayu to be in the intro which would have been Sae. But it's only now I realised the woman you see saying "please forgive me" is actually Yae. Asking for forgiveness after having abandoned Sae. You might also assume that it is at this point that Yae's spirit enters Mio like how Sae did Mayu. Also here's something I thought might happen in the game that didn't meant to post it in last nights post but forgot... One thing that I thought would happen at the end in my first play would be that there would be a twist where maybe you learn that Mayu was a ghost all the time. From the flashback scenes we kept seeing through the game of Mio & Mayu running and Mayu falling, I always assumed maybe Mayu died in that fall and Mio was never able to mentally accept her death and imagined Mayu was still with her (at the river at the start) so was expecting either to find out Mayu wasn't real or was a ghost all the time. This didn't happen though, and I swear I thought I would be right Also a 2nd thought I had was that maybe Mio & Mayu were actually Yae & Sae. But somehow had forgetten their past. Again this would mean Mayu being a ghost from the start and Mio having forgotten her past, changed her name and imagined seeing her sister who she renamed Mayu. I was thinking this cause I thought it was far too conicidental that both sets of twins had flashback scenes running from something and one falling. I assumed maybe this would turn out to be the one event. Shame I was wrong cause I think either of those twists would have been great Also I managed to readd the HBC and FF4 patch to my Wii today, so as soon as I'm finished with my hard mode run on PZ2 I'm starting up FF4 again EDIT: Oh and so far on hard mode the only difference I found is if a ghost hits you it does more damage. Can't tell if they have more HP themselves though cause as you get your camera with all your upgrades and film from your first play I was actually taking them down faster Maybe will notice a difference when I get a bit further into the game and fight stronger ghosts But I did notice one bit in Chapter 2 where there seemed to be more ghosts than I remembered attacking me in my first play. Edited July 15, 2012 by Mokong
Gentleben Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I'm such a coward. Playing on Easy again Is'nt there another mode after Hard as well?
Mokong Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I'm such a coward. Playing on Easy again Is'nt there another mode after Hard as well? Ah dude if you're gonna do a 2nd run you should do it at least on Normal. If you did a decent amount of upgrades to your camera and lens on your first play you should be fine. And yeah if you beat Hard mode there is a "Nightmare" mode after that, I'll give that a go after I replay FF4 From what I know I think you only get the extra "Chapter Zero" at the end on Hard and Nightmare modes. So you should give Hard a go I say. Like I said if you got your camera upgraded you should be fine :wink:
Gentleben Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I unlocked more clothes today after clearing I think it was chapter 5. (Mostly headpieces) Not sure if it was clearing the chapter that triggered it, or have more % of my ghost list complete..
Mokong Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Did you get some kind of notice in the game saying you unlocked more stuff or did you just happen to check the shop? I didn't change Mio or Mayu's cloths, only added glasses to them. It always puts me off if I have characters in one outfit and then if an FMV cutscene comes and they are in the default outfit it annoys me Though I may change my mind when(if) I get the Luigi outfit
Gentleben Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Did you get some kind of notice in the game saying you unlocked more stuff or did you just happen to check the shop? I didn't change Mio or Mayu's cloths, only added glasses to them. It always puts me off if I have characters in one outfit and then if an FMV cutscene comes and they are in the default outfit it annoys me Though I may change my mind when(if) I get the Luigi outfit You get a little black box with white text appear at the end of the chapter to let you know you got more stuff unlocked. You can always skip the cutscenes if the costumes put you off.
Mokong Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 but i like the cut scenes EDIT: haha, silly me, I forgot most cut scenes are in game engine and not all FMV using the summer uniforms now with glasses :P Also just finished Chapter 4 on hard mode and photoed 6 ghosts I didn't get on my first play. 1 was one you can only get on a newgame+ 2 where ghosts I knew I missed first time and 3 were ghosts I didn't know I missed first time details in spoiler tag The 1 you can't get on a 1st play I won't say where it was but it kinda hard to miss it :wink: the 2 I knew I missed first time were the toy kid ghosts after the door that a kid ghost opens "Running Boy" and "Boy Running By" I think they were titled. Kept missing them on my first game, think I reloaded 3 times but they are so far from a save spot I just said feck it Got them on 2nd go this time, haha Also found 3 ghosts I didn't know I missed first time. In the room where you get the Light key with teh book puzzle. When you get to the door and you hear people talking inside. First time I played I waited till teh talking stopped and went in and there was nothing (but the items and puzzle of course) but this time I went in while the talking was still happening and there were (non-violent) ghosts inside. I managed to get pics of 3 of them before they disappeared but going by the names in the ghost list there must have been 2 more (one for each book) so I guess I'll just have to remember that on my Nightmare run haha. Also only noticed one part in Chapter 4 that was different (difficulty wise) to normal....will spoiler tag just in case In the Altar room I was attacked by the Vieled Priest one more time than I was on normal mode. The extra attack happened when I went up the stairs to where you find the "See" lens. When I picked up the lens he attacked me again. This didn't happen on normal mode While the differences in terms of number of ghost attacks or attackers seems minimal so far I have found myself using more healing items than I did on normal, simply because of the extra damage they do. But I'm not low on healing items either (mostly cause I got to keep what I had left from my Normal mode play). And I have noticed some healing items I found on normal mode aren;t there in hard but very few, like one or two per chapter max so far. Oh and one other thing, kept forgetting to mention this, I figured this out bout half way into my normal mode play but kept forgetting to post it. If anyone is having problems with getting grabbed by the floating hand when trying to grab an item here's a tip... I noticed that if a hand is gonna try grab you, you'll get a small advanced warning from you Wii cause the Wii has to load the hand so if it is going to appear you'll hear the Wii breifly loading something from disc while Mio is reaching. So if you hear the Wii load when reaching for an item leave go of A. Can't remember if that same happened in FF4 or not. If it did I didn't notice it when I played that, haha.
Mokong Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Did Chapter 5 last night on Hard mode and bloody hell I found LOTS of new stuff I didn't find on my 1st play. And I think most of it was stuff that I actually did miss and only a few were "only there cause it was a newgame+" I also ended up finding a bunch of new notes I didn't find on my first play which following the clues in those notes turned into a little sidequest. And I found a new red Lens (Butterfly) too which I guess was there on my first play but I obviously missed it. When I started Chapter 5 I decided to have a run around and explore a bit instead of going straight for what I was meant to be looking for and boy did it pay off. Check spoiler tag for info if you want. Basically when I was going to the Osaka house looking for the Key to Mayu's cell instead of going straight for the Key I went through all the rooms first and ended up finding a lod of new ghosts. Can't remember the actual total but maybe 6 or 7 I'd say. And I think only like 2 or 3 were "newgame+" ghosts. (note: I worked out you can tell if a new ghost you find is one you missed first time round or a "newgame+" cause the "newgame+" ghosts appear at the bottom of your Ghost List, ones that were there on the first play that you missed appear in the order they should have been found in.) Along with the new ghosts I found in the Osaka house in the room with the Veranda (where there was new ghost pics...one I think was a newgame+) I found 4 "Scarps of notes" of from teh Surveyor (can't remember his name). Figuring out which locations each scrap refered to and going to that location I would find the completed note and get a chance at another ghost list pic. I reckon this little side quest was probably there in my first play but I just missed it as I didn't explore the Osaka house. I also found two new ghost pics outside the house one in one of the abandoned houses, to your right as you walk towards the save point at the junction before the steps that lead down to the double doors that lead to the big bridge. "Weeping Girl" I think that was called. And also found another in the Graveyard Also after I got the Key (and finished my little side quest) and went back to find Mayu instead of leaving right away and searching for her after finding the cell empty I explored the Kurasawa (think that's it's name?) House again. In the Altar Room I got attacked by the 3 Hide-and-Seek kids. I beat them and that's when I got the new Lens (Butterfly Lens), it gives you a 2nd meter to charge up so you can do more damage to ghosts and doesn't cost any spirit points I explored around the whole house and found one more ghost pic for my list So just at the end of Chapter 5 on Hard mode and my Ghost List completion rate is up to 70%
madeinbeats Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Mokong, did I hear you saying last night you want people to buy this to make sure it comes to the WiiU? I think Nintendo has just bought part ownership of the franchise so it should very much so be coming to the WiiU. I might have miss heard, I thought I was getting a crossed line with the nut house gaming night with all the weird voice effects going on.
david.dakota Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 @madeinbeats; you're right - about the rumours at least. I there were plenty of articles a couple of weeks back, but if I recall no one provided any evidence. Its a crying shame the series could not have been remade from the first chapter, but at least its something.
Mokong Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Mokong, did I hear you saying last night you want people to buy this to make sure it comes to the WiiU? I think Nintendo has just bought part ownership of the franchise so it should very much so be coming to the WiiU. I might have miss heard, I thought I was getting a crossed line with the nut house gaming night with all the weird voice effects going on. Yeah I remember reading that too but just cause they own (or part own) the franchise now doesn't mean they are gauranteed to make a 5th one for the WiiU.... and if they do it certianly doesn't gaurantee that it would be released outside of Japan. Just look at Fatal Frame 4 Anyway back to my own play. And I just finished my Hard mode run. 7 hours 35 mins Rank D Ghost List = 77% Ending Seen - Frozen Butterfly (@Nando if you thought the Crimson Butterfly ending was bit you gotta see this one...including the after credits :shakehead ) I on purpose saw all 3 events in Chapter 8 but couldn't remember the other conditions for the possible endings on doing that so wasn't aiming for any one in particular. Gotta say the extra chapter "Chapter Zero" was bloody hard, basically it is a boss fight (Sae) and she is a one-hit-kill and your mirrorstone (if you have one) does not work The start of it before the boss fight with Sae you also have to do something first to trigger the fight (or you die) took me a few tries to figure out what to do with Mayu, haha. (Won't say what in case anyone is on their way to getting there :wink:) Took me I think 8 or more tries to finally beat her and finish hard mode but damn was that hard. Trying to avoid her attacks can be hard cause you also can't evade (apparently on the PS2 original she wasn't one-hit-kill and you could evade, not fair) so you have to run away. Getting a max photo on her while she tries to grab you doesn't stop her attack either. After she misses you she vanishes and reappears in front of you. She'll appear so close that you won't have time to 180 and run away so you gotta keep running and and zig-zagging so that when she appears you'll have a good chance of be running at an angle to her allowing you to get away. If she misses 3 times she reappears again but stops giving you a chance to get a picture... and if you wait a bit while the camera charges a good chance at a fatal frame combo. BUT, if you beat her inside 2 mins she will dark return and becomes even harder to avoid. In all my tries I couldn't avoid her 3 times while she dark returned. When I did beat her I actually took longer than 2 mins (because I forgot to stop running after I avoided her 3 times and misses my photo op so I had to avoid her 3 more times which I did and fatal framed her to death and got the Frozen Butterfly Ending, which as I said was one freaky ending indeed Oh and there is also a hidden ghost pic in Chapter Zero that is only availble on a newgame+ too (and yes you have to find it in the middle of the boss fight... but there's a good chance at the start of teh fight to find the pic without worrying about Sae) On that note though I think there was a mistake in the endgings guide I posted before because going by that I should have gotten a different ending....I'll spoiler again just incase These are the 3 possible endings if having seen the 3 events in Chapter 8 2-New Ending A (Shadow Festival) - See all the events and fight/defeat Kusabi for at least more than 5 minutes. (New feature) 3-New Ending B (Frozen Butterfly) - See all the events and fight/defeat Sae without Fatal Frames (New feature) 4- Empty/Hellish Abyss (Utsuro) - See all the events and fight/defeat Sae with Fatal Frames (Another ED featured in the original game) Here the Frozen Butterfly Ending says "without Fatal Frames" but I beat her with only fatal frames and still got the Frozen Butterfly ending. After some searching the interwebs it seems that to get the Hellish Abyss ending REQUIRES that you make Sae DARK RETURN and beat her using ONLY Fatal Frames. The only fatal frames part I could prolly do. I can make her dark return with just fatal frames and Zero film but I can't avoid her while she is in dark return so can't fully test it... but I'm prolly right. Also on Chapter Zero I thought it was an extra chapter only in Hard and Nightmare difficulty.... turns out it is not, you can get it in Normal mode too. I spotted that 2 of the 3 possible endings on seeing the 3 events in Chapter 8 require you to do Chapter Zero too. The other one just requires that you take longer than 5 mins to beat the boss on Chapter 9. So I wondered what would happen if I saw the 3 events on Normal and beat the Chapter 9 in under 5 mins. Luckily one of my save slots was still a save form my first play that was on Chapter 8. So I loaded that up, saw the 3 events and motored to the Chapter 9 boss where I beat him in under 5 mins and I still got Chapter Zero dispite being on Normal diffculty. Note that the boss in Chapter Zero seems to be still as hard as it was on Hard mode for me, even on Normal it is still a one-hit-kill no evade function ghost I tried to see if I could get the Abyss ending on it while I was there (I tried a number of times) but I can't bloody not die once it dark returns on me ) Oh and when I beat Hard mode it didn't unlock any new costumes just some accessories With my Ghost List at 77% I kinda want to try finish that Will prolly tackle Nightmare mode and aim for the Shadow Festival ending as that seems the easiest one to get of endings I haven't got saved in my gallery and haven't seen yet.
Gentleben Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Decided to try Hard mode. Cleared the first two chapters and already increased my Ghost list but about 9% I was missing a lot of ghosts from the Osaka house.
Mokong Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 That's cool, are you planning for any specific ending when you get there? As a tip, when you found these new ghosts in the Osaka house did you find the 4 scraps of notes I mentioned before? If not, if you can find them you'll get a chance at some more ghosts to photo. Also have you been able to get a pic of the very first ghost that appears when you first enter the Osaka house in chapter 1? I couldn't on my 2nd play. Haven't started my 3rd yet.
Gentleben Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 That's cool, are you planning for any specific ending when you get there? As a tip, when you found these new ghosts in the Osaka house did you find the 4 scraps of notes I mentioned before? If not, if you can find them you'll get a chance at some more ghosts to photo. Also have you been able to get a pic of the very first ghost that appears when you first enter the Osaka house in chapter 1? I couldn't on my 2nd play. Haven't started my 3rd yet. Going for the promise ending. Capturered the very first ghost on my 2nd play, hardest ghost to capture is the woman going up the stairs if you ask me (got her this time) and yeah got the surveyor note on first play- did you find the bloody ring yet- it furthers that side quest...
Mokong Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Going for the promise ending. Capturered the very first ghost on my 2nd play, hardest ghost to capture is the woman going up the stairs if you ask me (got her this time) and yeah got the surveyor note on first play- did you find the bloody ring yet- it furthers that side quest... 1: Good luck getting the Promise ending on Hard mode, beat that boss in 1 min on hard mode would be a great acheivement, I could only manage 1 min 30 ish .... but then again I had seen all the 3 events in Chapter 8 so the Promise wasn't possible. But since you already finished it twice you must have your camera and lens upgarded to max so you could be ok. I'd say you should go for the Frozen Butterfly so that you can do Chapter Zero and see just how much of a nut job Mayu is in the ending 2: How in the hell did you get the first ghost in the Osaka house? Tips? I tried multiple times on my Hard mode run and could never get the viewfinder circle to turn blue even if I aimed right at it's face. Also I got the one on the stairs on my first try on my Hard mode run, which I was very surprised with as expected it to be harder 3:.... Bloody Ring? WHAT? you saying I missed an item somewhere too. AWESOME. Was trying to decided if I should go for a Nightmare run or replay Fatal Frame 4 first. That just made up my mind, PZ2 Nightmode will be started today Don't give me any tips on this ring though, it eluded me twice now, wonder why. EDIT: Oh actually speaking of Lens.... have you found all of them? I have all the red ones but missing 1 blue and 1 green. Missing I think the 3rd Blue lens and I know I am still missing the 1st green lens? Edited July 22, 2012 by Mokong
Gentleben Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 1: Good luck getting the Promise ending on Hard mode, beat that boss in 1 min on hard mode would be a great acheivement, I could only manage 1 min 30 ish .... but then again I had seen all the 3 events in Chapter 8 so the Promise wasn't possible. But since you already finished it twice you must have your camera and lens upgarded to max so you could be ok. I'd say you should go for the Frozen Butterfly so that you can do Chapter Zero and see just how much of a nut job Mayu is in the ending 2: How in the hell did you get the first ghost in the Osaka house? Tips? I tried multiple times on my Hard mode run and could never get the viewfinder circle to turn blue even if I aimed right at it's face. Also I got the one on the stairs on my first try on my Hard mode run, which I was very surprised with as expected it to be harder 3:.... Bloody Ring? WHAT? you saying I missed an item somewhere too. AWESOME. Was trying to decided if I should go for a Nightmare run or replay Fatal Frame 4 first. That just made up my mind, PZ2 Nightmode will be started today Don't give me any tips on this ring though, it eluded me twice now, wonder why. EDIT: Oh actually speaking of Lens.... have you found all of them? I have all the red ones but missing 1 blue and 1 green. Missing I think the 3rd Blue lens and I know I am still missing the 1st green lens? In order to kill the boss in under 1 minute I'm hoping to use the Red Butterfly lens + Zero film and the Green Fatal lens that lets you chain fatal frames. The bloody ring is in the little cupboard room where you first see the rope guy (and the screen is all white/grey) You can find it after you come back with Mayu after doing the doll puzzle (provided you have taken photos of the surveyor in the right locations before this point) Next you need to return to the Osaka house and head into the back room. I think I'm missing 1 green lens. For the first ghost, try positioning yourself before moving forward, she is tough to capture so you need to be really fast.
Mokong Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 In order to kill the boss in under 1 minute I'm hoping to use the Red Butterfly lens + Zero film and the Green Fatal lens that lets you chain fatal frames. Good idea, the trick though will be if you'll get the fatal frame moment. My fights with him between Normal and Hard modes I noticed he was more likely to give you a fatal frame chance at the start in Normal than in Hard. Plus he will dark return. If you can fatal frame him at the start to make him DR right away he'll recover half his health, two quick max shots with the crush lens should then do it (I'd go with the crush over butterfly so you don't have to wait the extra time to fully charge the lens) I think I'm missing 1 green lens. So any idea where the 1st blue lens is? For the first ghost, try positioning yourself before moving forward, she is tough to capture so you need to be really fast. Yeah I got the bitch earlier, on my 3rd try after starting Nightmare mode up. I also got another new ghost for my list in the room with the futons where you find the key. Was the first room I went into this time and the woman appeared outside the window.
Gentleben Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 So any idea where the 1st blue lens is? . You might be missing the one in the garden next to the Dragon statue? After you exit the room where you meet the Kusabi the first time, instead of going upstairs, follow the path around the other way. Another one is purchased from the stop (unlikely to be this one) I think another blue one is found for defeating some villagers inside one of the houses where you have to battle gthe little sister, you need to examine some boarded up double doors.
Mokong Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 You might be missing the one in the garden next to the Dragon statue? After you exit the room where you meet the Kusabi the first time, instead of going upstairs, follow the path around the other way. No, that is a mirrorstone, of that I am certain cause it's the first one you find in the game :wink: Another one is purchased from the stop (unlikely to be this one) Yeah, the 4th blue lens is bought in the shop....and the 4th red and green too. I think another blue one is found for defeating some villagers inside one of the houses where you have to battle the little sister, you need to examine some boarded up double doors. I know the room and double doors you mention, I don't recall finding a lens there, but I do know I examined those doors.... I think.... but if it's there seems a bit late in the game to be putting the 1st blue lens in the menus list
Mokong Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Up to about halfway into Chapter 5 on Nightmare now... just beat the first Mourner. And I now have all the lens and found that Bloody Ring too The green lens I was missing which was the 1st one in the menu was found when you find the bloody ring, you get both at the same time This lens apparently recovers Mio some health when used And finding the bloody ring then triggered a new fight (and a new ghost for my list - Cut Man) in Chapter 5 when I went back to the Osaka house. This fight was pretty hard too... cost me a lot of herbs and waters and my mirrorstone too And both ghosts Dark Returned on me Beating both those ghosts though gave me the blue lens I was missing (3rd on the menu) which somewhat ironic I thought gave the ability to prevent ghosts from dark returning My Ghost List is up to 81% now, edging closer but I'm getting the eerie feeling I may need another run, just thought I'd be closer to the 100% as I'm halfway to the end now...ah we'll see maybe I'll find a ton on the next chapter
Gentleben Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 The Blue Tether lens is'nt really that useful if you ask me, since it never works on boss ghosts, and the restore lens I don't use either- prefer to use normal healing items.
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