ClassicGamer

People just need some more time to understand why it's good. Most people didn't like The Adventure of Link and Majora's Mask on launch and shortly after. Now, about everybody loves these games. Something else: What about Links Crosbow advnture? I haven't played it for starters.... I can understand that it's not a real adventure. What is that like? 10 sets of shooting gallery's? That would not be worth it money. Point is, is this bad because it's a spin-off, or it is bad because it is simply bad and too short for anything with Link or Zelda?

Once you got your route planned well, you could barely make it without getting hit. It'll leave you 3 or 4 seconds on the clock.... But it was only level 2 and the game got harder later on. The horror of this game was that I didn't own in on a NES, I had it on tape on the Commodere 64. This means that restarting the game all over didn't take 10-15 seconds, it actually took at least 30 minutes to rewind the tape to the right position and then play the tape again. Some games took more than an hour to load. When you got further in games, you would turn the tape and play side B. When game over, start on side A again. Playing the last bit of Wonderboy in Mosterland took at least 5 hours straight to get to the point where you were before.... then the tape jams. Gameconsoles are a good thing.

I don't know that game, but I took a look at the screenshots.. It sure looks complicated... Most games like this are virtually impossible. Anybody played REZ? That was kinda cool too. A railroad shooter based on music and wireframes. Pretty Awesome, but I never completed it (I didn't own it either).

Mario 64, one of those stars too me ages to find... It was soo easy once you knew. Just turn the camera around and do wall jumps. Somehow the camera wouldn't rotate unless you walked all the way to the end of a small path and then give it a try. I always though it was a dead-end. I believe one of my friends found it for me. Oh, I got another hard game: Zelda 1 from the NES was difficult, but palace 6 was hellish. Wizzrobes, Like Likes AND the bubbles that prevent you from using a sword.....Oh man...

Oh and Wonderboy in Mosterland (on Commodore 64 cassettedeck), one of the most difficult games I've played. The legendary Turtles water level, that's terrific! When you finally beat it, you have no real clue where to go next. You'll die and have to start all over again. The Rick Dangerous game look quite good, but it seems like one of those games with a try and error gameplay. Do you think people should try it? Or was it one of the few games you had available to play, so you just kept at it? When I was a kid, I tried to beat everything on my gamers path, now, I simply avoid many games... Tetris was a good shot too, it's quite difficult to keep going, just like Wetrix or other puzzle games. Another one that came to mind was Harvest Moon. How could you tell you were doing right? Recently I played Zelda 2. It was still awesome! And, because I know this game pretty well and played it for years to beat it as a kid, I somehow got pretty far and I have hopes of beating it in a few tries. Beating the first palace and getting the hammer took me weeks to months, just like the turles water level and beyond. Both final bosses took me countless tries to beat. Now I got the upstab and reflect magic in Zelda2 within one continue.... Yay! I think I might give the Turtles another go one of these days. See if I can beat that. At least Goldeneye's enemies were stupid. Perfect dark was harder, but some cheap tricks still worked. Anybody played Timesplitters 2? Damn! And that's still arcade.... People who can play and beat warfare simulation games like Rainbow six or something are too skilled for computergames.

What are the most difficult games you've ever played? Did you beat them, or did you give up? My hardest games I've ever beaten: Zelda 2 (The Adventure of Link) on the NES. The Turtles (1?), which I had on the Commodore 64, but was also released on the NES at one point or another. Hardest games I have not beaten completely: Perfect Dark (N64) - the extra perfect agent level with the Skedar after beating the story.... I didn't find the right tactics or something. That was the only thing in the game I didn't complete. I even beat all the challenges, but this I couldn't do. Pac World on Commodore 64, I broke three joysticks on level 7, where you had to keep jumping very fast to clear the water with the trampoline. Then I quit. Hero (also C64), I made it to level 164 once... How far did it go anyway? And lots, and lots of (crappy) Commodore games.... The character was 5 pixels high, the gap to jump through were 5 or 7 pixels large..... But I don't really count these. I problably forgot quite a few in this section. Except Zelda games and a few Mario games, I usually don't collect everything in the game.

Yeah that's nasty! Japan and the USA getting all the good stuff months before us.

Yeah what's with this Pikachu anyway? When having 150 (or even 500?) pokemon, why that yellow bugger? He can't even play Sushi-Go-Round! Wouldn't it be cooler to have, say, The Farfetch'ed adventure or something? Really, how can people be so fond of this electric weakling.

Many games seem to get good when you reach a certain skill. I could never get myself there with V-Rally though. I can also understand that many people would think the old Super Mario Kart was crappy. I loved it! I still do.

Not really rare, but they make me feel like a king (without a kingdom or even a crown, but nonetheless a king indeed). I still have the gold Zelda cassettes made of cheap, shiny plastic. yay!

What about death rally, that one was amusing too.

Number 7 and 9 are the only ones I've played. They can do better than that! Mortal Combat 2 was fairly bloody, but quake? I only remember your axe being reddish. Do we also have a non-violent game list?

I'm not really sure about the '99 version though (are there any others). But we played one V-Rally game, and I didn't like it at all. It was some sort of... cheap. The steering was really, realy arcade style. Your car didn't seem to have any weight or balance point. When you hit something you would EXACTLY turn 180 degrees, then you couldn't make a turn back because the road was too small. Crusing back to the previous hairpin to turn your car around, losing one minute every time you screwed up on a corner OK, I wasn't completely fair, we both played 10 races or so.... But the cassette didn't make it through the night, that's for sure.... I felt nobody needed this game after Super Mario Kart on the SNES and Gran Turismo 2.

Sorry, I kinda drifted off. I didn't vote yet, and I was wondering how to do so on page 3, then I made my own list (the same list that seems to be buggy to me) on page 4 describing how I think the zelda games would be rated by myself (voting for one Zelda is too difficult, so some of us tried to make a top 3)..... Then somebody asked if the final scores I gave in that post should summarize my top three. That's where the Zelda 2 (NES game, which wasn't included in the original poll by the way), part comes up. My score is too high on that, making it the best Zelda game, which it isn't.... Therefore I need to adjust my personal scores on the series, giving it bonus points (or deducted points) for certain (game-unique) inventions... For example: Zelda 1 and 2 get bonus points, they are so old, they can't really compete with the N64 ones for example.... However Zelda 2 gets bonus points for creativity compared to Zelda 1, it gets some of its points reduced for being too straight forward (you basically can't get lost, which gave some feeling of loneliness to the Zelda series) MM get bonus points for its setting and atmospere, but lacks the feeling of freedom due to the three day time limit, so a small minus there... ALttP has a longer story, but Minish Cap had better items..... All that and more... I'll update my post as soon as I can figure out what's wrong with it....

Who says I'm not drunk at 11am? But, anyway.... What do you mean? That Zelda 2 thing comes from an old post, where I gave it a bit too much points somehow (underrated and creative, but not that much), and I feel I have to make up for it....