Posted March 25, 2007 The PS3 is definately the way to go. Why would you get a X360 with all there reliability problems? So far there have been no reports that I've seen to indicate PS3 is unreliable. And if you add in blueray DVD then the PS3 is better value than X360. . . . Because it comes down to games and how you play them, specifically the exclusive games and online. If a high def DVD player is important to you then blu-ray and PS3 is definatly where to go. Though i have to admit, apart from one case of the PS3 apparently overheating that i heard of, the PS3 is by far a more reliable console, lets hope it stays that way in the next few years since it costs so much in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 Also, you can't really appreciate the ps3's quality unless you have like a 50inch HDTV, something i don't have. Same could be said for the 360... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 Though i have to admit, apart from one case of the PS3 apparently overheating that i heard of, the PS3 is by far a more reliable console, lets hope it stays that way in the next few years since it costs so much in the first place. funny youd mention that, my girlfriends ps3's hardrive died this morning, shes since traded it in for another one but she'd had it for a day... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 funny youd mention that, my girlfriends ps3's hardrive died this morning, shes since traded it in for another one but she'd had it for a day... Well there are bound to be some faulty units; the PS3 does not seem to have the epidemic of faults that plague the X360. Maybe the new X360-Elite will solve some of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 Well there are bound to be some faulty units; the PS3 does not seem to have the epidemic of faults that plague the X360. Maybe the new X360-Elite will solve some of them. thats blowing it a bit out of proportion, i'd say the 360 faults are reminiscent of the PS2 ones, with early models being 'sensitive' and later ones being more stable. nature of hardware i suppose, always faults. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 lmao @ anyone who bought PS3s to try and make an ebay profit lol anywho - ZeldaFreak, if you were thinking about selling your 360 . . . Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Fable 2, Forza 2, PGR4, VF 5 hopefully with online leader boards and a load more i can't remember . . . do you think its worth missing out on these games for resistance, motorstorm, killzone 2, and maybe some other exclusives? just keep the 360, save a bit, get the PS3 and feel satisfied you get to play all the best games this gen. Don't worry I'm not selling the 360 quite simply because it has is has blue dragon, lost oddysee(sp??) and eternal sonata coming to it. But it would be to have with it maybe after e3 press conference this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 thats blowing it a bit out of proportion, i'd say the 360 faults are reminiscent of the PS2 ones, with early models being 'sensitive' and later ones being more stable. nature of hardware i suppose, always faults. Nah, the PS2 faults were due to quick manufacturing for Chistmas, 360's are a design flaw. And that post about the Hard drive, it's just a standard laptop hard drive. Unlucky i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 One other i've noticed about the PS3 is the distinct lack of noise it makes, in comparison to the bus like sound of the 360. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 One other i've noticed about the PS3 is the distinct lack of noise it makes, in comparison to the bus like sound of the 360. Everyone has been saying that. My replacement 360 is quieter though, but the 1st ones were ridiculously loud. Hows the PS3 heat wise? And has anyone had any problems with controllers disconecting or anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 25, 2007 One other i've noticed about the PS3 is the distinct lack of noise it makes, in comparison to the bus like sound of the 360. I would of said a Tank but fair enough. It gets warm but nothing to shout home about, and the controlers are spot on there blue Tooth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 I would of said a Tank but fair enough. It gets warm but nothing to shout home about, and the controlers are spot on there blue Tooth. My local EB has the PS3 in a fully enclosed area with no ventillation and it has not locked up once since it was installed. They tried the X360 there before and it failed constantly. The other thing I noticed was the start up time for games of the PS3. While > than the Wii they are acceptable and much less than the 360 games Ive seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 The other thing I noticed was the start up time for games of the PS3. While > than the Wii they are acceptable and much less than the 360 games Ive seen. Thats start up time straight of the disc yeah? I've not heard of that before . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 The thing with PS3 vs 360 dilema is that 360 already has a slew of AWESOME games. Give the PS3 some time, and a price cut and it will be much more worthwhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 Definately, I think after the initial launch wave itll just be us gamers standing around waiting for the titles we bought the PS3 for! Mines a long wait, but Im sure by November itll SO be worth it!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 Reading this thread makes me want one. But I couldnt name a game currently out that I want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 I think i post this here. Square Enix Party 2007 lineup Video & Playable - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (NDS) - Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings (NDS) - Final Fantasy Tactics: Shishi Sensou (PSP) - Itadaki Street DS: Dragon Quest & Super Mario (NDS) - Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii) - It’s a Wonderful World (NDS) - Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (PSP) - Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates (NDS) - Final Fantasy XI (Xbox 360, PS2) Video only - Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition (PSP) - Final Fantasy II Anniversary Edition (PSP) - Dragon Quest Monster Battle Road (Arcade) - Final Fantasy VII Advent Children Complete (Blu-ray Film) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 Walking past my local Woolies earlier and the window was stacked to the top with PS3 boxes with a sign saying buy now while stocks last, £494.99 for the console and 2 games. Must be pretty desperate to get rid of them at that price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 Walking past my local Woolies earlier and the window was stacked to the top with PS3 boxes with a sign saying buy now while stocks last, £494.99 for the console and 2 games. Must be pretty desperate to get rid of them at that price. My local HMV has a sign saying 80% still in stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 My local HMV has a sign saying 80% still in stock. That seems a bit odd, because that could mean 80% of 10 units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 Same could be said for the 360... I meant that you'd need a 50inch HDTV to see the graphical difference between a PS3 and 360. I agree otherwise though. Infact, if i had a 100inch projector like some one on IGN *cough* Matt cassamasina *cough*, i would LOVE to have a ps3; would look awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 I meant that you'd need a 50inch HDTV to see the graphical difference between a PS3 and 360. I agree otherwise though. Infact, if i had a 100inch projector like some one on IGN *cough* Matt cassamasina *cough*, i would LOVE to have a ps3; would look awesome. now he's just a fucking froob! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 Ray Maguire on the launch of the PlayStation 3 In case you haven't noticed, the PlayStation 3 finally launches in Europe this weekend. GamesIndustry.biz took the opportunity to sit down with Sony's UK managing director Ray Maguire on the eve of the console launch to discuss the controversial price, the rocky road to retail, media perception of the Sony brand and the head start by rival consoles. Part two of the interview, where Maguire discusses amongst other things, the recent US sales figures, will be published on Monday. GamesIndustry.biz: Do you look at the launch of the PlayStation 3 as a new direction for PlayStation, or a new phase in an on-going story? Ray Maguire:It's definitely a new direction for us. Many people are saying we're now joining the next-generation console era, but I believe we've stepped over the current next-gen to create the real next-generation. For us to go from a machine that basically wasn't online other than the SOCOM-type of experience – to throw that flag further out than has been before, to go into a hi-def world, to be the only one to do true 1080p, to be a much wider entertainment device rather than just a gaming device and have all your media within one area – it's a much more encompassing entertainment medium than has been available in the past. Do you think it's those extra functionalities that make the PS3 worth the money, because it is priced higher than the other next-gen consoles? Do these functions justify the price? One of the things we're proud of is that Sony is a company about innovation. It's reasonable easy to walk down an aisle and choose a chip, a graphics card and a power supply and to put them together and present them as a product. What we as a company do, and is in our heart and soul, is to think that none of those components is good enough. We need to be looking at something that no-one else provides. We need to be looking at components that when put together create a device that is looking into the future rather than looking at 'the now'. That's what we've done with just about every single component in the PS3. Whether it's the Cell chip, which is the best super computer brain that can handle lots of data, or the Blu-ray component which is the way to get 60GB of data into the marketplace, or the output that's required – full 1080 and HDMI connections – that's the way of the future. All of those things are part of moving from the PlayStation 2 era to the PlayStation 3 and leaving behind all of the middle products that are in the market place right now, which clearly don't compare in terms of technical prowess. Why is the PlayStation 3 more expensive in the UK than it is in the rest of Europe? Well the first thing that is important is that I want the price to be as low as possible, because the lower the price the more we sell – we're a software model. If you take the product at the factory gates there are slight variations to price if you're putting out a single sku product, but it's very, very small. But then the differences start to accumulate. If you've got different shipping costs and import duties that makes variation in price. And that's just getting it into a country. Then you have a look at the economic and financial situation in each and every territory. That's where the differences start to vary massively. If you take what's considered to be the most expensive and the least expensive – consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. Then you look at the UK – a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium, and the cost of people is a lot more. The cost of retail is vastly more in the UK than it is in the US and that's before you even stop to consider the US doesn't have VAT at RRP, they put a small amount on afterwards. Whereas, we get stung by 17.5 per cent. And pity the poor Irish and places like Sweden. But we have to remember this is no different to selling a cup of Starbucks coffee or a McDonald's hamburger. This is the cost of living in the UK. It just becomes another barrier for us to get more product into the marketplace because the price needs to be set higher to get from our factory to the consumer. But GBP 425 seems like an odd number. Did you think about pricing the PS3 at GBP 399 which would have a different feel to it, psychologically? No. We did consider GBP 429, but we wanted to get the best for the consumer. Critics are saying that as console launches go, this is one of the bumpiest we've seen. Do you agree with that – has the PS3 taken a rocky road to launch? Well, it's certainly not been smooth sailing. I'd have to say that every launch has its issues. Sometimes they're behind the scenes so you'll see the grace of the swan above the water and not the rapid movement of legs beneath. Nowadays, with how the media works, not only does information fly around at the speed of light, so does mis-information. With blogs on the increase, people's thought processes are transferred from one place to another and picked up by people who might be lazy when it comes to finding out whether something is true or not. The old adage of never let the truth get in the way of a good story is probably more prevalent than it has been before. You also have to remember that we're one of the most cynical nations on the planet and even if you're telling people the absolute truth they doubt whether that information is real or not. This is the world that we sit in and we have to accept it and make the best of it.We have to make sure that what we're doing is focusing on making the best product for the consumer at the best price and making sure that experience is second to none. Arguably, Nintendo and Microsoft are dealing with this new media and they seem to have had an easier time of it. Do you think that Sony has to accept some responsibility for the negative things that have happened in the run up to launch? When you're the market leader – the biggest brand – you're the biggest target to hit. Of course we're going to be subject to that. Also, we set ourselves the highest expectations and we want to deliver the best. Innovation carries risk. And if you're not prepared to take risks I don't think you're really worthy of getting the crown at the end. That risk, and the issues brought up by taking those steps into a place that no-one else wants to go to, makes it rockier. If you look at the hardcore gamer, the one that has supported Sony in the past, there seems to have been a change of opinion on Sony products. Would you agree that there's been a backlash from this dedicated audience? What we have to do now is make sure that people get a PlayStation 3 in their hands and they start to experience it. One of the things we've noticed is that people who don't understand it, after three hours they come away saying 'I get it, I now know why the wait has been worth it'. They can also see a future vision as well, because you can see it instantly once you get your hands on it. When you add on features such as Home, the network connectivity, remote play – the world just starts to unfold in front of you. Everything changes from that point onwards. At GDC, Phil Harrison unveiled Home and LittleBigPlanet, which met with a very positive reception. Do you see that as a turning point in the PlayStation brand being received much more positively again? Yes. All the way along, we've not been a company to stand up and shout about what we're going to be doing somewhere in the future. We're a company that likes to say, 'Here it is. Have a look at it. If you like it, buy it. If not we'll try harder'. Because of that we've been silent for some time getting these products together. But I think it's been worth it to see the massive leap from where we were to where we're going. People appreciate that they can now see something tangible. Once you see something tangible then attitude's change. Microsoft already has a year's head start with the Xbox 360, and the Wii is constantly selling out at retail. How concerned are you about those installed bases and lower price points? To be honest we only look at our own business plan. Some people get very bent out of shape over market share. We've had a manufacturing process, we've had to get the product to market at the right time and right price. We have to look to do what is right for us as a company. I think this never-ending comparison between one and the other is really difficult because it's like comparing apples and oranges. No two machines are in any way the same. But there are games machines, essentially... Well one's a games machine, but the PlayStation 3 is an entertainment machine. We're into a hi-def existence, we're into the next part of the entertainment world. We're not hooked into a world which was technologically average two years ago. You can't compare the two. If you're comparing the two we would have had the same technology and we'd be at the same price and we're not. We're far advanced technologically, and if you look at the difference in cost price to the consumer, that is the ratio of how far along we are being in advance as a console compared to our competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 18:45, Mar 26th 2007 by Neil Long New format becomes fastest-selling home console ever over its debut weekend. The figure is three quarters of the total 220,000 UK launch stock for day one, and makes PS3 second only to PSP in the overall launch weekend sales stakes. The Sony handheld shifted 185,000 during its opening weekend back in September 2005. PS3’s record-breaking debut for a home console comfortably beats the previous top seller Nintendo Wii, which sold 105,000 after its frantic launch weekend in December last year. Fellow format rival Xbox 360 racked up an estimated 70,000 at launch in December 2005. Source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 That's fucking crazy. I betted to myself that it would sell around the PSP area, 70kish. I didn't think it would beat the Wii's 105k, boy I was wrong. Seems Sony really did have 200k stock for the U.K All I can say is then well done on Sony for actually supplying more than what the demand was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 26, 2007 18:45, Mar 26th 2007 by Neil LongNew format becomes fastest-selling home console ever over its debut weekend. The figure is three quarters of the total 220,000 UK launch stock for day one, and makes PS3 second only to PSP in the overall launch weekend sales stakes. The Sony handheld shifted 185,000 during its opening weekend back in September 2005. PS3’s record-breaking debut for a home console comfortably beats the previous top seller Nintendo Wii, which sold 105,000 after its frantic launch weekend in December last year. Fellow format rival Xbox 360 racked up an estimated 70,000 at launch in December 2005. Source. Seems like the consoles still sitting on the shelves are down to Sony have a large number of units ready rather that a lack of demand. So guys, how do you words taste? (You know who you are ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
