Julius Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 (edited) Decided to stick this in General Gaming to first and foremost keep it separate to the Nintendo Gaming section so that people don't accidentally find themselves stumbling in, but also because it's unclear at this point if this will only be relevant to Pokémon/Nintendo stuff or if potential projects on other platforms might crop up. If any moderators disagree with me doing this, then feel free to move it over. Someone call Mario and Luigi, because leaks be abound... Reading elsewhere it seems as thougg over a TB of data has been leaked. I won't link the leaks or a source of it directly, but it's not very hard to find with a little snooping around; the usual suspects of ResetEra, r/gamingleaksandrumours, I imagine somewhere on 4chan is going nuts right now... Obviously, it's a tricky one where the source of the leaks seem unclear, but unlike what happened with Insomniac towards the end of last year, so far no-one has come forward looking to take ownership and sell info – I imagine because of someone forgetting to take their phishing scam training seriously. Curious to see how and if the gaming media report on this one with that in mind, especially if no-one comes forward to take ownership of it being a malicious and focused hack, as it was this aspect of also leaking personal details which seemed to be a sticking point for a lot of major outlets not going ahead on discussing the Insomniac leaks. Similar to what happened with Insomniac, though, I'm going to suggest just being respectful and keeping things in spoiler tags because these things are likely to turn up in the coming months and years; this is obviously a bit of a nightmare with how they aren't working properly right now, but the old spoiler tag method of opening and closing a spoiler seems to work, as H-o-T pointed out a few weeks ago. This can lead to weird formatting following the closed spoiler tag, mind you, so uh, yeah - or just copy one from elsewhere like some others have been. With that being said, to compile the leaks so far... The Leaks So Far... Switch successor codename is 'Ounces', leaked previously. Pokémon PvP/PvE MMO planned - 'Synapse', developed by Game Freak and ILCA. Gen X may be 'Gaia', seems to be a game for the Switch successor. Some people seem to be thinking it could have a Greece-based region. Pokémon Legends: Z-A seems to be 'Ikkaku'. Sucks for Game Freak, but also, damn, what a time for this all to come out - just weeks after the lawsuit against Palworld going ahead? Very strange. Also very curious to see if any of this info forces Nintendo's hand over the Switch succesor's marketing, because I really doubt that its codename is the only thing in these leaks. Edited October 12 by Julius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 (edited) Have to say "Project Ounces" doesn't really roll off the tongue nicely quite like Project Reality, Atlantis, Dolphin, Nitro, Revolution, Cafe or NX does it? Bit of a rubbish codename really. Either way, a proper official version of Pokemon Showdown (which is what "Synapse" sounds like it might be) would be very exciting for me! Edited October 12 by Dcubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen-i Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Dcubed said: Either way, a proper official version of Pokemon Showdown (which is what "Synapse" sounds like it might be) would be very exciting for me! I mean with how much the two latest games have been deemphasising battles, I'll take it at this point. Although, then again, with how much of a bloody grind Scarlet/Violet is to get TM's, I don't think I'd bother getting a team ready if the mainline series doubled down on boring grinding for crafting purposes. God, it absolutely killed my motivation to keep up with the meta. Massive regression from how easy Sword/Shield made things. Not to mention how the series seems to be slowly disincentivising actual battles. Watch any speedrun of Scarlet and Violet, and marvel at how easy it is to do the bare minimum of trainer battles and still end up overleveled. Edited October 12 by Glen-i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 (edited) Seems like there might have been some confusion over Synapse, as it is now being reported as being... (want to keep anything in the leaks relating to new and upcoming/unannounced titles in spoiler tags) ...some Splatoon-like game? Idk what they mean by this, Splatoon seems super unique and specific to be a comparison to draw here. I'm guessing they mean a Hero Shooter or something, third-person but you're a Pokémon? Pokémon Battle Royale where you spawn in as a random Pokémon and get to re-enact the ending battle to the first Pokémon movie? No idea. The people I've seen aggregating these leaks - and seemingly some people involved in it? - are saying that they don't have plans to share more info on the upcoming projects, we'll see if that holds, but they're saying they'll hold onto what's in the leak relating to those until those games are officially released. Again - we'll see if that holds. They're saying that a build - likely not the final build, but a complete build - of Z-A is included in the leak. Anyways, I've been scrolling through some of this stuff before heading to sleep, imagine we'll be waking up to plenty more too. Now, some of you probably remember that Spaceworld 1997 demo prototype for Golf & Silver which included all of these new Pokémon in beta forms or concepts which wouldn't turn up in the final games, and we had all of these assets from it coming out a couple of years ago. Massive deal, absolutely huge. Alright, well now take that and multiply its scale several times over, because in this leak (some people are calling it the Teraleak, others are calling it Freak Leak which gave me a chuckle ) there are Pokémon and character sprites from betas for Gen III onwards are floating around (I have seen the funniest, made-in-Microsoft-Paint-looking Croagunk I'm probably ever going to see, and then there are things like a clear concept for Scraggy going back as far as Gen III!), there's concept art going back as far as Gen III (as in, pen on paper stuff), the Gen III map editor is in this thing (?!), hell the damn design doc for Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire is here too. There are audio and video files, one of which has some alternate footage to the opening of BW, there's an alternate opening track to SoulSilver which is kind of just divine. Plenty of WIP pixel art too, so things like slightly alternate takes on Gen IV guys going around, and the protags from HGSS. Think I saw someone say the SDK for BW has turned up too. Plenty of scrapped designs. Oh my goodness the lore! There are pages on inspirations for certain characters (such as Drayden from BW/BW2), things about legends, Arceus seems to be getting a full backstory which is mapped out on the triangles and circles of the Sinjoh Ruins cutscene they drew inspiration from for the final battle in Legends: Arceus – holy damn there's text too and it mentions the giants mentioned in one of the Plate descriptions! Just typing this out it might go back even further still because I've just scrolled past different title designs for Crystal? That original Blaziken/Latias concept art (as in, those designs kind of fused because they were one and the same) from aaaaaaaages ago gets done justice here with a sprite, front and back. Some really nice UI mock-ups. Just, damn. Seriously feel like a kid in Disneyland right now seeing so much of this. Surprised how much more I'm excited I am by the Gen III to V leaks and details than any potential news on the upcoming games, genuinely. Absolute megaton of a leak. Edited October 13 by Julius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen-i Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) 5 hours ago, Julius said: there are Pokémon and character sprites from betas for Gen III onwards are floating around Ah, great! I was hoping there'd be some of that here. Far more exciting! That beta Lickilicky is wild! EDIT: Wow, some of the scrapped designs in the Gen 5 section look downright horrifying! Is that Hydreigon!? Uhhh, yeah, final design is miles better! This scrapped Pokémon's really cool! Kinda sad it doesn't exist... I mean, it might be Haxorus? But that seems like a stretch... EDIT EDIT: Man, Gen 3 has a veritable ton of outright scrapped Pokémon designs. Feels weird that they haven't revived some of... ...is that Scraggy? Huh... Woah! Hold up!? Scraggy was a beta Treecko!? Woooahhhh! Edited October 13 by Glen-i 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 This is crazy, I'm loving the Freak Leak so far! Some of these beta designs are wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 (edited) Game Freak have released an official statement on the leaks, confirming it as an unauthorised server breach, and that it does indeed include a number details of past and present employees. Quote Notice and apology regarding the leak of personal information following unauthorized access GAME FREAK Inc. (Headquarters: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo; CEO: Satoshi Tajiri; hereinafter referred to as "our company") has discovered that personal information of employees and others was leaked in connection with unauthorized access to our server by a third party in August 2024. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and concern caused to all involved. 1. Leaked personal information Personal data regarding our employees, etc. Items: Name, company email address Number of items: 2,606, *Our employees and contract workers (including former employees and ex-employees) 2. Responses to individuals whose personal information has been leaked We are contacting the affected employees individually. For those who cannot be contacted individually due to resignation or other reasons, we will notify them through this announcement and set up a contact point to respond to inquiries regarding this matter. 3. Measures to prevent recurrence We have already rebuilt and inspected the server, and will strive to prevent recurrence by further strengthening our security measures. 4. Inquiries regarding this matter If you are affected by this matter, please contact the following office for inquiries: [Inquiry form] No two ways about it, that really sucks. Like I said before, I'm really, really curious to see how the gaming media handle this considering that it was the inclusion of personal data in the Insomniac leak which had them avoid sharing details (even those pertaining to the actual games, which I still found cool as solidarity, but really weird in terms of, ya know, game coverage, or rather the lack thereof). Some more really interesting stuff has turned up, like opinions and concerns on the future of the franchise beyond Gen III, notes from Diamond & Pearl meetings, a transcript of the meeting where they decided Ash's journey had to come to an end, stuff on Pokémon Movie 24 (which might be in development hell?), and a Great Detective Pikachu and 'GameBoy' movie to round out the Detective Pikachu trilogy. The Netflix live-action show seems like it was planned for release this year and would have been 8 episodes long for its first season, and it seems like 5 seasons were planned? But obviously it hasn't even gone into production so goodness knows what's going on there. Again, just really interesting stuff. Also, Deoxys was a starfish, which makes some sense to me, with a single eye. So it was basically Starro? Edited October 13 by Julius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Julius said: Game Freak have released an official statement on the leaks, confirming it as an unauthorised server breach, and that it does indeed include a number details of past and present employees. No two ways about it, that really sucks. Like I said before, I'm really, really curious to see how the gaming media handle this considering that it was the inclusion of personal data in the Insomniac leak which had them avoid sharing details (even those pertaining to the actual games, which I still found cool as solidarity, but really weird in terms of, ya know, game coverage, or rather the lack thereof). Some more really interesting stuff has turned up, like opinions and concerns on the future of the franchise beyond Gen III, notes from Diamond & Pearl meetings, a transcript of the meeting where they decided Ash's journey had to come to an end, stuff on Pokémon Movie 24 (which might be in development hell?), and a Great Detective Pikachu and 'GameBoy' movie to round out the Detective Pikachu trilogy. Again, just really interesting stuff. Also, Deoxys was a starfish with a single eye. So it was basically Starro? You know how it's going to be handled... https://www.ign.com/articles/pokmon-developer-game-freak-reportedly-hacked-stolen-data-on-unannounced-games-as-well-as-nintendo-switch-2-codename-leaked-online https://www.eurogamer.net/pokemon-developer-game-freak-reels-from-unprecedented-gigaleak-of-significant-internal-data https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/10/pokemon-developer-game-freak-reportedly-hacked-massive-amounts-of-data-allegedly-leaked All that posturing about the Insomniac Leak was just that, posturing. Gotta protect their friends in Sony and keep brown-nosing to get their jobs for the boys after all... Of course, when it comes to Nintendo/Game Freak? Nobody gives a shit about their precious "solidarity" anymore. Nobody should be upset about the reporting of these leaks though. It is literally their job to report on news-worthy info! As long as they're not posting personal information about specific employees, anything else is fair game. Edited October 13 by Dcubed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, Dcubed said: You know how it's going to be handled... https://www.ign.com/articles/pokmon-developer-game-freak-reportedly-hacked-stolen-data-on-unannounced-games-as-well-as-nintendo-switch-2-codename-leaked-online https://www.eurogamer.net/pokemon-developer-game-freak-reels-from-unprecedented-gigaleak-of-significant-internal-data https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/10/pokemon-developer-game-freak-reportedly-hacked-massive-amounts-of-data-allegedly-leaked All that posturing about the Insomniac Leak was just that, posturing. Gotta protect their friends in Sony and keep brown-nosing to get their jobs for the boys after all... Nobody should be upset about the reporting of these leaks. It is literally their job to report on news-worthy info! Yeah, I think I'm in agreement with you. That Insomniac leak really sucked and while I'm all for solidarity in the industry and not reporting leaks, in my 8 years of posting on here, I swear it's the first time it's gone down that way, and I think it's incredibly two-faced to cover one and not another. Like you say, it's their job to report on these things – I think someone like Kinda Funny making the decision that they didn't want to talk about the [Insomniac] leaks is fine, as they're an independent company and let's be honest, not really part of the actual reporting side of things; they're an aggregator of news for their podcasts and that's about it as far as the mainstream, conventional form of journalism goes for them. But places like IGN and other big outlets? I was actually thinking last night when scrolling through the leaks about how it might go down over here, and I do think you're right in that it's kind of about having friends or knowing people at Insomniac (what's really weird is I really, really doubt PlayStation pushed people hard to not cover it too, it seemed like everyone volunteered to follow suit), but goes even further and is also down to this weird divide where Game Freak are, in large part, a faceless, foreign entity outside of the absolute top brass, which has been making games for close to 30 years thousands of miles away from what I see as the hub of the industry on the West Coast, at least in terms of media outlets and some major Western developers. People also love to dogpile on GF and I think them being seen as "lazy" reinforces this strange idea that maybe leaks like this are forcing their hand and somehow doing a weird public service? It sounds odd, I know, but hey, that's this corner of the internet for you I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen-i Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 5 minutes ago, Julius said: People also love to dogpile on GF and I think them being seen as "lazy" reinforces this strange idea that maybe leaks like this are forcing their hand and somehow doing a weird public service? Hell, we saw this with the online gaming community once Palworld's plagiarism flared up. People deemed it was fine, because it was Game Freak and they deserve it because they make successful games, and are "lazy" and such. Hell, a couple of people here said as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I don't know anything about the Insomniac leak so can't compare, but I think GF/Pokémon will always be it's own category in some ways. While seeing behind the scenes stuff, prototypes, early designs etc will always be interesting, the nature of the Pokémon franchise just makes this exponentially greater. While some of the business decisions, things tucked away in code etc will be interesting to people, the early designs is what most people will end up remembering. I think there will always be a unique fascination in that. Not that it's condoning leaking, but it would be fascinating if Game Freak released early design stuff at the 10/15 year anniversary of games. If they were still going to potentially use some then by all means keep that secret, but I imagine a book on the anniversary showcasing all the things that never were would do quite well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 PushSquare, Gematsu, Video Games Chronicle and Gamespot didn't post about Insomniac. Obviously PushSquare won't be publishing anything about Pokemon but as far as I can see, Gematsu, VGC and Gamespot have yet to post anything about it on their main pages. As for Kinda Funny, Greg Miller is close friends with lots of Insomniac workers, hence them not reporting on it. 27 minutes ago, Dcubed said: You know how it's going to be handled... https://www.ign.com/articles/pokmon-developer-game-freak-reportedly-hacked-stolen-data-on-unannounced-games-as-well-as-nintendo-switch-2-codename-leaked-online https://www.eurogamer.net/pokemon-developer-game-freak-reels-from-unprecedented-gigaleak-of-significant-internal-data https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/10/pokemon-developer-game-freak-reportedly-hacked-massive-amounts-of-data-allegedly-leaked All that posturing about the Insomniac Leak was just that, posturing. Gotta protect their friends in Sony and keep brown-nosing to get their jobs for the boys after all... Of course, when it comes to Nintendo/Game Freak? Nobody gives a shit about their precious "solidarity" anymore. Both IGN and Eurogamer reported on the Insomniac hack. No idea if NintendoLife did but seeing as it wasn't PS related I don't see why they would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen-i Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, Ashley said: Not that it's condoning leaking, but it would be fascinating if Game Freak released early design stuff at the 10/15 year anniversary of games. If they were still going to potentially use some then by all means keep that secret, but I imagine a book on the anniversary showcasing all the things that never were would do quite well. I'd buy the hell out of that! I love it when a game has concept art hidden in-game. It's the best kind of collectible. Because it's endlessly fascinating, and I love seeing ideas form and change over time before we get to the final product. And yeah, I do have a right giggle at some of the really early-in-development designs, but I do so because the actual used monster designs in Pokémon are so excellent, and it's great to see what could've been. OK, beta Hydreigon was never ever gonna look like that in the final game. But now I'm tempted to draw actual final design Hydreigon wearing bright red pyjamas. The mental image is just so funny to me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 13 minutes ago, Ashley said: Not that it's condoning leaking, but it would be fascinating if Game Freak released early design stuff at the 10/15 year anniversary of games. If they were still going to potentially use some then by all means keep that secret, but I imagine a book on the anniversary showcasing all the things that never were would do quite well. Yeah, would love to see something like that. I can see why they don't just in case they have some idea they want to return to from way back, but a concept art book for Pokémon would be really special. Sugimori's sketches for the first game will forever and always be some of my favourites 6 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said: Both IGN and Eurogamer reported on the Insomniac hack. Ah, my bad for mentioning IGN, it actually took a little digging for me to find the article from them after you mentioned it, but boy do they go in. There's stuff in there reading through their reporting that I didn't even realise was in the leak, like the actual title of a certain leaked spin-off which was/is (?) planned for next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 (edited) Looks like Z-A was originally planned for release this year, as well as some info on some Pokémon... Mega Zygarde (to no-one's surprise, but how do you do a Mega for a Pokémon which can already become a hulking mecha?) and Mega Zeraora. Man, I can't wait for that game. The Mega Evolution reveal at the end of that trailer and it being a Legends game is so exciting to me! Edited October 13 by Julius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Hero-of-Time said: PushSquare, Gematsu, Video Games Chronicle and Gamespot didn't post about Insomniac. Obviously PushSquare won't be publishing anything about Pokemon but as far as I can see, Gematsu, VGC and Gamespot have yet to post anything about it on their main pages. Now that Game Freak have acknowledged and put out a statement, VGC have reported on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Apparently the source code for Z-A has been obtained thanks to this hack. If true, things are gonna get pretty ugly. I wonder if the person will start leaking footage/images of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said: Apparently the source code for Z-A has been obtained thanks to this hack. If true, things are gonna get pretty ugly. I wonder if the person will start leaking footage/images of the game? Wouldn't surprise me if they did considering the escalation we've seen from there just being mentions in project files, to mentions in anime plans, to "a complete build", to, well, the entire game's source code apparently being included – and they're claiming they have it for the Gen X games too (which last night we learned were codenamed K and N, what are we just the table of elements now?). As we all know, you NEVER screw with the money. Forget about the Nintendo ninjas, this guy's actually just going to turn up in an alleyway somewhere, chunks of his body looking like they were sucked off clean by an extremely powerful vacuum, and a Mario cap with eyes over his head. They're about to send in their best. Edited October 13 by Julius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 14 Author Share Posted October 14 (edited) More leaks doing the rounds, and this time they revolve around some weird in-universe myths akin to the ones you can find in Canalave Library in the Sinnoh games, and it seems like Game Freak really went in on blurring the relationship lines between humans and Pokémon in the in-game myths based on their original ideas for these. There's one about the "Original Sin based on the Pokémon World", wherein a horrible woman who hunts the likes of Slakoth and Vigoroth ends up giving birth to a Slakoth who dies and she throws herself and the dead Slakoth into a lake? So, uh, yeah. There's another where some guy and an Ursaring end up choking each other to death, who was actually born from an Octillery having relations with a human (his dad), and another with, uh, a woman married to a Typhlosion after being kidnapped, gaslit, and giving birth to a half-human half-Pokémon. Similar weird story with a Lapras to the Octillery one, too, think it might have been that story condensed a bit? Oh and a dude marries a Rapidash who asks him to not kill the female Rapidash (his "sister-in-laws") or the female Ponyta (who are "like his children"). Female author for all of these by the way, and the same one at that. She's got a lot of answering to do for her hand in where the furry scene is about to go, I'm telling you Elsewhere there was a wonderful bit of hand drawn Rayquaza art which is well worth tracking down! And there's some HGSS beta UI floating about which I really like the look of! There's also a 3D model of Hilda from Gen V who was used in the early prototype stages for X&Y (similar to how Lucas was for BW), and something Game Freak referred to as the "Masuda camera" – a much more dynamic camera which looks real good but didn't make it into the final product for X&Y. Edited October 14 by Julius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) 7 hours ago, Julius said: More leaks doing the rounds, and this time they revolve around some weird in-universe myths akin to the ones you can find in Canalave Library in the Sinnoh games, and it seems like Game Freak really went in on blurring the relationship lines between humans and Pokémon in the in-game myths based on their original ideas for these. There's one about the "Original Sin based on the Pokémon World", wherein a horrible woman who hunts the likes of Slakoth and Vigoroth ends up giving birth to a Slakoth who dies and she throws herself and the dead Slakoth into a lake? So, uh, yeah. There's another where some guy and an Ursaring end up choking each other to death, who was actually born from an Octillery having relations with a human (his dad), and another with, uh, a woman married to a Typhlosion after being kidnapped, gaslit, and giving birth to a half-human half-Pokémon. Similar weird story with a Lapras to the Octillery one, too, think it might have been that story condensed a bit? Oh and a dude marries a Rapidash who asks him to not kill the female Rapidash (his "sister-in-laws") or the female Ponyta (who are "like his children"). Female author for all of these by the way, and the same one at that. She's got a lot of answering to do for her hand in where the furry scene is about to go, I'm telling you Elsewhere there was a wonderful bit of hand drawn Rayquaza art which is well worth tracking down! And there's some HGSS beta UI floating about which I really like the look of! There's also a 3D model of Hilda from Gen V who was used in the early prototype stages for X&Y (similar to how Lucas was for BW), and something Game Freak referred to as the "Masuda camera" – a much more dynamic camera which looks real good but didn't make it into the final product for X&Y. While I can believe that some of these mythological stories that have been coming out may be true (The games themselves have previously hinted at interspecies relationships between humans and Pokemon before); unfortunately, a good bunch of these text files have also been confirmed fake too (such as the supposed internal conversation that was had about why Gen 6 began pandering hard to genwunners)... so there's no way to know what's real or not real anymore. I wouldn't trust anything textual that's coming out to be real anymore. Speaking of which, even sprites and art assets from this point could easily be faked now. Edited October 14 by Dcubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) A few details about the Quinty/Mendal Palace SNES remake have emerged, including a title screen screenshot and gameplay footage! Looks like it was originally intended for Nintendo's Japanese-only Nintendo Power service, before being cancelled. A proposal was made to finish up this unfinished ROM and put it out on the Wii VC (makes sense, considering that it was the direct successor to Nintendo Power), but it never got done unfortunately. Footage! Looks like the SNES ROM is out in the wild somewhere. Edited October 14 by Dcubed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 14 Author Share Posted October 14 (edited) Another unreleased title, Super Yoshi / Yoshi's Egg: This thing just keeps going deeper and deeper, huh? My favourite reaction to all of this: Also Beta Zigzagoon is just the best: Also really appreciated someone putting frames of Typhlosion's walk cycle together, looks so cool in motion: 16 hours ago, Dcubed said: While I can believe that some of these mythological stories that have been coming out may be true (The games themselves have previously hinted at interspecies relationships between humans and Pokemon before) I mean, yeah, it's pretty clear to me that the leaks around the purported myths would be that they were the initial works which they boiled down further and further until we got what was in the games (DPPt). Kind of surprised, though I know I probably shouldn't be, at the backlash to those supposed myth concepts – they weren't included in the final game, they're clearly in parallel to and pulling from actual IRL myths and legends, and yet I'm seeing some people call it pedophilic? Which...uh, how? What? It's a concept which was never going to see the light of day and was clearly intended as lore, reminds me of those people who call certain films and shows and the people behind them misogynistic just because they have a character in it who is misogynistic Definitely some misinformation starting to go around though, like you say. If nothing else it keeps us on our toes, but why must people be like this?! Edited October 14 by Julius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 Oof, South Kalos apparently being a thing but never getting a chance in the games hurts. Especially because it's kind of reminding me of the Battle Zone in DPPt, just with the way it expands the map, seems pretty obvious it would've been host to the post-game. Got a chance to put that right with Z-A I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Oh wow! They were making a DS version of a SNES version of Mario & Yoshi? That's cool! Nice to see that they were working on other non-Pokemon related titles in the mid-late 2000s. Wonder what other stuff they were working on before the whole Garage Project thing started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 I've seen people point out that some of the stranger bits of "lore" already existed on fan fiction websites. A few Pokémon designs being shared have also been fan designs. It's possible that a staff member made them in the first place, or that Game Freak were researching what others were coming up with, or the leakers are simply mixing in some fake stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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