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5 hours ago, Charlie said:

Hey team, it's been a while!

Loving being forced to work from home, hoping I never need to go into the office again.

Hating my wedding being postponed and honeymoon cancelled. I should be in Bali right now!

Nice to see you Charlie! 

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11 hours ago, Charlie said:

Hey team, it's been a while!

Loving being forced to work from home, hoping I never need to go into the office again.

Hating my wedding being postponed and honeymoon cancelled. I should be in Bali right now!

I echo those wedding feels, luckily I* got mine* in just before lockdown, but the anticipation feels and having it dragged out... digital patting on your shoulder in a manly fashion.

Never got round to organising a honeymoon... which has thankfully played out.

 

*the wife

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I AM SO BORED

I cant even remember how many weeks in I am now, 4...5? another 2 more months to go....

Its been a bit of a job getting groceries, but at least I've been able to.  The vulnerable patient priority thing only applies to England like most things :blank:

Sat with my neighbours and had coffee in the sunshine, we all sat well over 6ft apart from each other, and it was really nice. I hope we'll all learn to appreciate the simpler things when this is all said and done..

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On 4/17/2020 at 10:47 PM, EEVILMURRAY said:

I echo those wedding feels, luckily I* got mine* in just before lockdown, but the anticipation feels and having it dragged out... digital patting on your shoulder in a manly fashion.

Never got round to organising a honeymoon... which has thankfully played out.

 

*the wife

My sister is getting married in September, hers is all up in the air at the moment.

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21 minutes ago, Raining_again said:

My sister is getting married in September, hers is all up in the air at the moment.

You just know people who had their venue cancelled are going to expect to be next in line, and when your sister gets married (I expect things to be more normal by then) people will try and push her date back 🤗

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1 minute ago, EEVILMURRAY said:

You just know people who had their venue cancelled are going to expect to be next in line, and when your sister gets married (I expect things to be more normal by then) people will try and push her date back 🤗

If hers isn't cancelled... I suspect things definitely wont be back to normal by early September.  I assume if a deposit has been made on a date by my sister other couples don't have a leg to stand on?

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53 minutes ago, EEVILMURRAY said:

You just know people who had their venue cancelled are going to expect to be next in line, and when your sister gets married (I expect things to be more normal by then) people will try and push her date back 🤗

Don't think that's how it works though? If you've paid your deposit, surely that date is yours. People who've had their wedding cancelled will just be moved to the end of the queue.

My sister's wedding is in June (in Belgium) and she doesn't know yet what is happening. We've cancelled her hen party weekend already cause it was in a few weeks. She already checked with her venue in case she has to cancel, and the next available date won't be until 2022. 

@Charlie, I'm sorry to hear your wedding has been postponed. Did you manage to rebook your venue/wedding already?

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1 minute ago, Eenuh said:

Don't think that's how it works though? If you've paid your deposit, surely that date is yours. People who've had their wedding cancelled will just be moved to the end of the queue

Most definitely. But that won't stop the "but I was here first" calls. Which I bet medical procedures will get the same battering too.

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33 minutes ago, EEVILMURRAY said:

Most definitely. But that won't stop the "but I was here first" calls. Which I bet medical procedures will get the same battering too.

Waiting lists are monitored by length of time on the waiting list, their time waiting wont be reset.  I'm fairly sure that most cons surgeons only book their surgery calendars for a few months at a time, so therefore all those patients will just be cancelled & rebooked later, it isn't like weddings in that sense.  But my experience in a patient facing nhs role, there most certainly will be a lot of entitled people complaining either way.  I am on a waiting list for rhem & neuro outpatient appts, before all this stuff i was about 1.5 years into a 3y waiting list, i suspect that will easily double now.  Which is making an already maddening situation a whole lot worse for me

The venue my sister picked had a 2.5 year waiting list so on that assumption they're booked well into 2022.  I don't know what she'll do if it gets cancelled.

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11 hours ago, Raining_again said:

 But my experience in a patient facing nhs role, there most certainly will be a lot of entitled people complaining either way. 

That's the phone calls I'm expecting in a couple of months. Hopefully I still won't be the only one in the office by then :(

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We've had three weddings that we were supposed to go to this summer rescheduled. Two got moved to the same weekend in August (luckily different days) and the third ended up on the same weekend but next year. I really hope that we'll be able to go in August, because it would really suck for them to have to move it again...

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My partner got a message this evening confirming that 3 residents at the care home she works at have tested positive for Covid. Had to wait 72 hours for the results due to Tayside being one of the areas which doesn't conduct tests over the weekend. One of the 3 residents died the other night, with 3 others having died through last week of suspected Covid. She's back in work tonight and will be for the whole week so it's pretty much a waiting game for the both of us to wait and see when we both develop symptoms as like most care homes, PPE has been hard to come by and the manager has been slow to bring in measures to safe guard residents, never mind staff.

I always knew it was going to be a waiting game for getting it given that every time the norovirus has gone around we've both got it from there. Just annoyed at how it's all happened given we've both been doing everything we can to protect us from it, including now only doing online shops and only going out to the pharmacy. We're not even going out for walks or anything just because of the nature of our work and not wanting to risk bringing it into her work but it seems others have already done that.

So I'm more than a bit annoyed but I guess I can only hope that what we get is mild but it sucks that its inevitable and could cause me big problems given I've already for health issues (stomach issues which already cause breathing issues as well as seizures). Hoping for the best but prepared for the worse. And will only get a test if my partner shows symptoms.

All these false claims of help for care staff and the social care sector really grind my gears. Yes the NHS is the front line but there are other sectors that are and have been hit badly and the government has blustered enough. Things need to improve but I don't see the government taking anything away from any of this with the current lot in charge.

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@Ganepark32 I hope you and your partner don't get too badly affected if you do get the virus. I think that's one of the problems, you don't know how bad it's going to hit you until it does... And I agree that some sectors are being left behind in regards to PPE when they are just as important.

I also think it's not right how the daily figures currently don't seem to include cases that happened outside of hospitals. If I compare this to Belgium where they do include (suspected) Covid-19 deaths that happen inside care homes, it seems that at least half the deaths happen in those care homes. So if the same is happening in the UK, the death toll could be almost double of what it is right now, but it's just not being reported. 

Also, my sister has announced today that their wedding (supposed to be in June) is being postponed until June 2022. :(
I feel so bad for her and her partner, they had everything ready to go. Not sure what is going to happen now with their honeymoon, the wedding dress etc. But they made the right decision to postpone it; even if the lockdown restrictions are eased by June, it still just feels too risky to have a big wedding then. 

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@Ganepark32 I hope you don't get it or if you do get it mild, but even then a friend of mine got it with very mild symptoms and he was on his arse for a few days, so please be careful and keep well

Lockdown is driving me slowly mad, it doesn't help that prior to lockdown i was of work with a broken elbow for 6 weeks, couldn't drive couldn't go out then i get to go back to work for a total of 3 1/2 days before this hit, so i'm really loosing track of days and weeks. 

And i could honestly murder my partner, shes working from home, shes the loudest person ever on the phone, its like dom jolly is downstairs doing an episode of trigger happy TV. And somehow i've become her IT specialist, but one she thinks is wrong - "Chris this isn't working" "okay so you do this to fi..." "NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND", when the reality is she doesn't understand how she's just done something wrong and refuses to listen to how to do it correctly and fix it. I pity her team because i'm one more row whilst i fix her mess from doing a patio and she can supervise from under it

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Had a bad cough and felt a bit spaced out these past couple of days so I went to have a test today as I’m classed as an essential worker. Test centre (at Haydock race course) was well organised and it only took 15 minutes or so to get in and out. The swab is a little uncomfortable but nothing too bad. They said I should get my results in 72 hours. 

I don’t think that I’ve got it, but just did this to be certain so that I can go back to work. Thing is, the test could come back negative and I could catch it and spread it on my first day back in. Until they develop some kind of antibody test or a proper vaccine, I can see these measures being in place for at least another year, possibly longer. Testing is great, but unless it’s done frequently, then what’s the point?

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On 4/20/2020 at 10:07 PM, Eenuh said:


@Charlie, I'm sorry to hear your wedding has been postponed. Did you manage to rebook your venue/wedding already?

Thanks. The venue were really understanding. They've allowed us to rebook for November at no extra cost. At the end of the day to them it was an empty slot in their calendar so it's either money now or money later and they can survive until then.

Although we are worried about choosing November rather than next year with the way things are looking in the world.

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5 hours ago, Ike said:

@Dcubed you work for the NHS, yeah?

You should be able to claim a free game via https://giveaways.keymailer.co/nhs

Hey there, thanks for the heads up.  I saw this yesterday and tried to nab a game for Switch, but all the codes were gone sadly.

 

I’m keeping an eye on it though :) 

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Lots of stores are re-opening again in Germany. Hair salons, too.
Restaurants, hotels, etc. set to re-open throughout May in some federal states.

Schools have opened again.

Bundesliga will probably continue on May 15th.

Infection rates are low.

Good news all around here. I do, however, think that we'll get hit with a second wave. And I also think that there's nothing we can do until a vaccine has been developed.
The balance we have in Germany right now is acceptable, though.

I'm still doing my part but I will most likely visit my best friends again, starting next week. However, not in groups. Just one-on-one meetings.

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On 5/5/2020 at 12:21 PM, drahkon said:

Lots of stores are re-opening again in Germany. Hair salons, too.
Restaurants, hotels, etc. set to re-open throughout May in some federal states.

Schools have opened again.

Bundesliga will probably continue on May 15th.

Infection rates are low.

Good news all around here. I do, however, think that we'll get hit with a second wave. And I also think that there's nothing we can do until a vaccine has been developed.
The balance we have in Germany right now is acceptable, though.

I'm still doing my part but I will most likely visit my best friends again, starting next week. However, not in groups. Just one-on-one meetings.

I spoke to a friend of mine in Germany last night and they said a similar thing about the situation lifting again. I agree that there is nothing we can do until a vaccine has been developed.

Personally I believe that using face masks more (even home made ones) in addition to hand washing, social distancing... will help slow things down until some kind of vaccine can be found despite some 'experts' who say they are a waste of time or that people are not intelligent enough to properly wear one. 

 

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14 minutes ago, sumo73 said:

I spoke to a friend of mine in Germany last night and they said a similar thing about the situation lifting again.

May I ask where exactly they live?

Merkel has put the responsibility of lifting the lockdown into the hands of each federal states. And the one I live in (North Rhine-Westphalia) seems to open up everything (all that has been mentioned and now gyms, theme parks, etc.).
While I agree with certain stores, restaurants, etc. opening again I do think that our federal state is opening too much, too early :hmm:

"It's up to the people now to be responsible." - That's what we keep hearing.
They're not wrong...but in my opinion, we still need some of the restrictions to be upheld.

 

Anyways, people are up in arms because Bundesliga will start again on the 15th of may.
"This economic branch shouldn't be active again." - Why not, though? They've provided a concept to be able to resume the league and our government approved. Other branches are re-opening again under certain conditions, too. I really don't see the problem ::shrug:

I do, however, think that our government should've focused on getting daycare centres up and running again. They are open, but not with max capacity.

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4 hours ago, drahkon said:

May I ask where exactly they live?

They live in the Offenbach district about 20 km from Frankfurt.

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4 hours ago, drahkon said:

Anyways, people are up in arms because Bundesliga will start again on the 15th of may.

"This economic branch shouldn't be active again." - Why not, though? They've provided a concept to be able to resume the league and our government approved. Other branches are re-opening again under certain conditions, too. I really don't see the problem ::shrug:

Because football draws crowds. Even if you forbid entrance to the stadium, people will still gather in large numbers in restaurants, pubs, and the like.

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13 minutes ago, sumo73 said:

They live in the Offenbach district about 20 km from Frankfurt.

Interesting. Hessen was one of the first federal states to start with reducing lockdown regulations.

5 minutes ago, Jonnas said:

Because football draws crowds. Even if you forbid entrance to the stadium, people will still gather in large numbers in restaurants, pubs, and the like.

Pubs aren't open for business, yet. Even if they were they'd be under heavy regulations, just like restaurants are.

I understand that argument, though. Fan groups might come together and display idiotic behaviour. If that happens I really hope Bundesliga will stop immediately and the association will abort this season.
Other than that...people who will gather in groups to watch football have most likely already met in groups for other reasons.

Gonna be an interesting rest of the month once the 26th matchday arrives on the 16th of May. I'm happy to be watching football again and I'll pay close attention to the intensity of the fallout.

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I'm worried that they're going to ease restrictions too soon in the UK. Johnson mentioned in yesterdays PMQs that easing restrictions will begin on Monday and the front pages of most of today's papers were plastered with celebrations that lockdown is finally coming to an end. I think the cavalier attitude of the press is going to cause real problems, lulling members of the public into a false sense of security. 

Restrictions have mostly been a big success but we are still seeing 600+ die every day, according to official figures the death rate in the UK is almost 1 in 8 - opening up services again to ease the strain on the economy seems like it's inviting disaster. 

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