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Started The Clone Wars today, but only as far as the first two episodes in chronological order + the first 20 mins of the film. Really wasn't feeling it at all and was about to give up when my nephew called and guilt tripped me, so I'll push on and try and watch the rest of the show :laughing:

I was wondering if there are any less important arcs that I can skip? At least for now, cause I've obv left it quite late to catch up before Bad Batch starts, oops.

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33 minutes ago, Ronnie said:

Started The Clone Wars today, but only as far as the first two episodes in chronological order + the first 20 mins of the film. Really wasn't feeling it at all and was about to give up when my nephew called and guilt tripped me, so I'll push on and try and watch the rest of the show :laughing:

Yep, really looking forward to it! 

And finally! Yeah, the movie and some parts of the first few seasons can definitely be rough, that's for sure. I've seen the whole show through a few times now, so when I return to it in comfortable just sticking to the essential arcs. 

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I was wondering if there are any less important arcs that I can skip? At least for now, cause I've obv left it quite late to catch up before Bad Batch starts, oops.

I've had a quick flick through and if you are going to do any skipping of episodes mainly to get to The Bad Batch, I'd go with Gizmodo's essential arcs.

It was put out before the seventh season was released last year, so I'd watch that based on the chronological order, then also add the first four episodes of season 7 (the introduction of the Bad Batch) as well as the last four episodes of season 7, which is the climactic finale to the show, to the end. At a rough count that's probably still some 70+ episodes, so a bit over half of the series, and I've already noticed one or two episodes missing which I'd probably stick in myself as personal picks, but aren't really all that essential

All of this being said, once you've seen 70+ episodes of the show considered essential, I personally think it might be difficult to do a more complete rewatch of the show later on, knowing that what you left out is likely weaker/not wholly necessary to the plot. Personally I think it highlights how great a job Lucas, Filoni, et al did in turning the ship around just considering how weak some parts of the earlier seasons (and the movie) were, you see the growth of the team and Filoni in particular has his identity as a director comes through more and more as the series goes on.

No greater case to make for this point than considering how many weren't Ahsoka fans in the earlier seasons and film, and I think you could be missing out a bit if you care about the development of the production/writing/etc. of the show in that sense; I think sticking to only the "essential" arcs could make it seem like Ahsoka was better written than many make out from the outset. 

But, I guess you could also just take my word for it! :p 

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13 hours ago, Julius said:

I've had a quick flick through and if you are going to do any skipping of episodes mainly to get to The Bad Batch, I'd go with Gizmodo's essential arcs.

Thanks very much, I'll probably stick to that. 

13 hours ago, Julius said:

All of this being said, once you've seen 70+ episodes of the show considered essential, I personally think it might be difficult to do a more complete rewatch of the show later on, knowing that what you left out is likely weaker/not wholly necessary to the plot. Personally I think it highlights how great a job Lucas, Filoni, et al did in turning the ship around just considering how weak some parts of the earlier seasons (and the movie) were, you see the growth of the team and Filoni in particular has his identity as a director comes through more and more as the series goes on.

If I get through the above list I'd be surprised if I'll be keen to go back and watch what I missed. I really have a hard time enjoying this era in SW, not to mention the characters. Even Mace Windu in animated form made me roll my eyes. Looking forward to the improved quality of later seasons though.

I'll take your word for it on Ahsoka! In twenty minutes of the film she showed more personality than all of her Rebels appearances so that's a positive!

An hour long conversation with my 11 year old nephew on the phone yesterday talking about that Disney Investor livestream and how excited he was for all the shows coming up. :peace: Especially Obi Wan. When things open up a bit more I might have to take him to Galaxy's Edge, what a hardship :bouncy:

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It's really strange how they can go from episodes containing things like multiple decapitations, torture and drugs to a tiny Slippy Toad having a jolly adventure with some droids or R2 and C-3PO going on Gulliver's Travels.

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It's funny how Anakin not being played by Hayden Christensen (with a terrible script to work with) makes Anakin more endearing. I'm liking him a lot, a dozen episodes in. Ahsoka's great too!

Obi-Wan meanwhile has lost all personality and seems to only be there to berate or roll his eyes again at Anakin's hotheadedness. Not a fan.

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In a crew interview with CNET, it has been revealed that The Bad Batch will be 16 episodes long. Recently it leaked that the first episode would effectively be a triple-hitter in its own right, coming in at some 70+ minutes, so if that's repeated for the finale, it's essentially a 20 episode show if compared to the runtime of previous Star Wars animated series, and that's without taking into account the lack of runtime constraints now that they're on Disney+ (typical episodes will likely be 25 - 30 minute long). 

Looking forward to it! 

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Not seeing KOTOR or Rogue Squadron II on the list makes me sad. :( Shadows of the Empire has no business being in the top 10.

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50 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Not seeing KOTOR or Rogue Squadron II on the list makes me sad. :( Shadows of the Empire has no business being in the top 10.

So let's see what we have here...

1. Cashing In - EA cashing in on the strength of the license with minimal effort. Remember the expansion pass? That was fun. 

2. Jedi Falling Upwards - Respawn trying to show EA that you can actually still make a decent game with the license. 

3. Cashing In II: The Reckoning - The Mouse Sees All - EA somehow almost losing the license and DICE cleaning their mess after having their reputation dragged through the mud. 

4. LEGO Star Wars the Ultimate - I can't believe they didn't try to port this to modern consoles. I'd pick it up for PS3 if not for the Skywalker Saga coming at...some point. 

5. Star Wars: Unhinged - played through this again last year and boy is it goofy fun, even if it has aged a little poorly. Some of those facial animations though...yikes. 

6. The Last Great Battlefront Game - I've put thousands of hours into this and that's probably an understatement, I know each and every map like the back of my hand, Kamino and Coruscant especially. And those space battles and flying to capital ships to destroy it from the inside!

I bought this when I was in Australia in 2007, still have that copy to this day, and played it up until I got a PS4 in 2015 for the new and improved Battlefront (I say, trying to smile through tears). So many great times with that game, I can't tell you how many times I completed the campaign or Galactic Conquest. Speaking of which, easily one of the best campaigns in a Star Wars game, even if it's pretty basic and objective driven when you break it down, getting to live in the armour of a 501st Legion trooper was something I wanted to do since I first saw Episode III. This will always be on my personal list of Top 10 video games. 

Also spawned what became my own personal Final Fantasy VII Remake having not really grown up on too many video games, Pandemic's Battlefront III:

Remember when you could climb into vehicles? It's a shame we can't do that on modern technology, right guys? Frostbite is totally incapable of this, right? Right?!

(Also ground-to-space battles is one of the most exciting things I've ever seen in a video game, even if it's just touched up visuals)

7. LEGO Star Wars: The Better Films - I remember reading about this six months, maybe a year, before release in a gaming magazine in a tiny corner shop next to my primary school. First time I ever memorised a video game's release date, man I loved that cantina and watching those cutscenes back. Remember when LEGO games didn't need to be voiced?

8. Star Wars BuT wItH bLoCkS - played this so much around friend's houses growing up, and even at my after school club. I had so much of this game memorised by the time I finally got my own hands on it, it spawned a series of LEGO games and I imagine still holds up to this day. 

9. Precursor to Greatness - okay but seriously, the game is probably seriously overlooked, and that's because they decided to release a sequel with so much more content, faster loading times (at least from my experience), etc., just a year later. Still, some seriously cool maps such as Rhen Var and Bespin (which had ground-to-air battles!), and I remember it having Republic Commando-styled orders too. Great game but completely overshadowed by its successor. 

10. Without a Shadow of a Doubt - the only game on this list I haven't played, and I'm pretty sure that's just because I wasn't around when it released :laughing:

 

H-o-T, I've actually never played KoToR, as it wasn't easily accessible (or at least, as far as I could tell as a young kid) and not available on platforms I owned (we had an old PC, and I didn't have an original Xbox), but I still know a surprising amount about the game from playthroughs I watched, scouring Wookieepedia for as much as I could get my hands on about the era, and all of the ToR stuff from the Galactic Timeline Records, which I've probably watched through tens of times:

I've got a PC more than capable of running it now, but I'm not particularly keen on playing games on it (weirdly, guess that's just what happens when my only real gaming experiences growing up were on dedicated consoles), so will await the eventual port to PlayStation/Switch (right..?) and remake. 

Also never played the Rogue Squadron games for similar reasons, unfortunately. Got to imagine the reason that these games didn't crack the top 10 is simply that they weren't available on PlayStation 2, otherwise I'm sure their numbers would have been bumped up enough to make the list. 

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Yeah, I think with KOTOR and RSII being exclusives, it hampered their sales. Looking at the list, I think there’s only Shadows that was a console exclusive, the rest being available on multiple platforms.

 

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The retractable lightsaber lives and it looks GLORIOUS

Also just finished the first episode of The Bad Batch. Holy smokes. 

Uh, yeah, the first episode is 70+ minutes long, and every single of them was great: the animation quality picks up exactly where the end of The Clone Wars Season 7 left off, which is to say it's great; the music has been excellent; they've done a great job of instantly selling me on these characters (much more so than in the adapted arc for Season 7 of The Clone Wars); and it hasn't spent any time sitting around wasting, it's just got on with it. Already so many familiar faces outside of the Bad Batch, too. Best premiere a Star Wars animated series has had by a looooooong shot. 

Guess I'll dive into a spoiler tag! 

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- laughed so hard at the image of The Clone Wars logo burning away for the one from The Bad Batch to present itself. For all intents and purposes though, this is effectively Season 8 of The Clone Wars, and I love it (I mean, the plan always was to have the show have episodes running simultaneously through the course of the events of Revenge of the Sith and then showing the aftermath). 

- absolutely freaked out when they showed a couple of shots from Episode III recreated in animation! 

- watching Order 66 be executed will never get old, and that is a fact. 

- really surprised that they just threw out canon material regarding how exactly things went down between Caleb (Kanan) and the clones and retconned it, it's not the first time something like this has happened within canon so far (ahem, the Ahsoka novel), but it's definitely weird! As was hearing adult Kanan's voice applied to young Kanan :laughing:

- speaking of Caleb, that shot of him igniting his lightsaber and it lighting up the snow which was kicked up around him...hnnnnnnnnng. That's some great looking stuff! The wide shot of the waterfall and cliffs after he jumped were excellent too. 

- the "more machine now than man" nod gave me a good grin. 

- interested to see what they do with Omega as a character and what her arc will we be. 

- seeing Saw Gerrera is always interesting. 

- having the Bad Batch go through that training course to show just how good they are at what they do was a smart move, and that final shot from Crosshair to send that knife flying was awesome. 

- the standoff with Crosshair in the hangar was very Western-like and I loved it. 

- really excited to see where the show goes from here. The Kaminoans are helping the Bad Batch and obviously are still pushing for clone production to continue, despite the Empire wanting them to cease. Are we going to see something similar to what we saw in one of my favourite levels from the original Battlefront II's campaign, the clone rebellion on Kamino against the Empire, turn up here?! And is the person they're meeting up with Cut from The Clone Wars (the deserter), or is it Rex? I kind of hope it's the former. 

Great first episode, very much looking forward to Friday for the next one! 

Haven't really been any announcements today, which is a bit strange as I feel like we do normally get a few things on May 4th, but there's been a rumour going around today that Lucasfilm Animation is looking to start putting out films, which I am all for after how their longer form episodes and arcs from the end of The Clone Wars and the start of The Bad Batch have turned out. Fingers crossed this means we'll be seeing some of the abandoned arcs from The Clone Wars - such as Cad Bane vs Boba, Crystal Crisis, Dark Disciple, and Son of Dathomir - adapted for Disney+. 

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