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Just shame on Nintendo man. Shame shame shame. This GC adapter/Smash situation is killing me. It's unbelievable. Nintendo are always fucking half-measures, completely out of touch with their fanbase. Their continually dwindling fanbase. For good fucking reason.

 

It kills me to say it, but Smash or no Smash, I find it highly unlikely I will be supporting Nintendo's next console without a damn good reason. Whatever I had left has really been killed by this GC adapter fiasco.

 

I've been reading the horror stories about the cancelled Smash bundles and I'd be gutted if it happened to me. No gutted is the wrong word, I'd be fuming. What's worse is now a lot of places have hiked the prices up, even amiibo. So even if they do find it, they'll most likely be paying way more. The game alone where I bought it has gone up by €5. The adapter was overpriced much like other Nintendo hardware to begin with.

 

I too won't be buying Nintendo's next console at launch, got burned way too badly and I'm going to see how things pan out first, not listen to their lies. I think it's too late for some people, they won't be coming back and you're right, it is a dwindling fanbase. And this will be my first time not buying their console at launch. My patience has run out with Nintendo.

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Amazed to see Drive Club hasn't plummeted like a rock tbh.

 

bundles keeping it alive.

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I thought bundled games weren't included?

 

Not in NPD but are in chart track sales.

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latest Japanese Sales

 

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2014 (Dec 01 - Dec 07)

 

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2014 (Dec 01 - Dec 07)

 

01./00. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} (¥7.776) - 227.527 / NEW

02./01. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.937) - 171.813 / 1.798.097 (-42%)

03./00. [3DS] Derby Stallion Gold <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2014.12.04} (¥6.264) - 73.616 / NEW

04./00. [3DS] Aikatsu! 365-Hi no Idol Days <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.04} (¥5.627) - 33.151 / NEW

05./08. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.616) - 29.670 / 1.788.460 (+36%)

06./00. [PS3] Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} (¥7.538) - 27.278 / NEW

07./07. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 25.157 / 2.225.855 (-9%)

08./09. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 23.557 / 2.925.945 (+14%)

09./00. [PSV] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 3 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.12.04} (¥7.344) - 22.152 / NEW

10./02. [PSV] Phantasy Star Nova <RPG> (Sega) {2014.11.27} (¥6.458) - 19.833 / 127.147 (-82%)

11./13. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 # <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 19.244 / 753.870 (+51%)

12./00. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind - Chain <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2014.12.04} (¥5.378) - 19.073 / NEW

13./05. [PS3] Resident Evil HD Remaster # <ADV> (Capcom) {2014.11.27} (¥4.309) - 15.445 / 65.703 (-69%)

14./00. [3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 3 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.12.04} (¥6.264) - 14.909 / NEW

15./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.12.04} (¥8.424) - 13.758 / NEW

16./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} (¥7.538) - 12.638 / NEW

17./14. [WIU] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker <ADV> (Nintendo) {2014.11.13} (¥3.996) - 11.829 / 65.882 (-3%)

18./00. [PS4] Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.12.04} (¥8.424) - 9.461 / NEW

19./03. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Knight of Fafnir <RPG> (Atlus) {2014.11.27} (¥6.458) - 9.456 / 68.986 (-84%)

20./00. [PS4] The Crew # <RCE> (Ubisoft) {2014.12.04} (¥9.072) - 9.002 / NEW

 

Top 20

 

3DS - 9

PS3 - 3

PS4 - 3

WIU - 3

PSV - 2

 

HARDWARE

 

 

Code:

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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |

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| 3DS # | 145.420 | 106.517 | 125.269 | 2.626.797 | 4.266.181 | 17.288.717 |

| WIU | 24.469 | 12.496 | 48.762 | 508.552 | 640.949 | 2.033.982 |

| PSV # | 23.341 | 29.220 | 29.366 | 1.066.265 | 1.045.853 | 3.421.622 |

| PS4 | 15.971 | 13.489 | | 838.525 | | 838.525 |

| PS3 | 5.679 | 5.360 | 24.085 | 428.980 | 770.737 | 10.138.654 |

| XB1 | 790 | 1.237 | | 40.488 | | 40.488 |

| 360 | 189 | 108 | 473 | 9.464 | 23.567 | 1.648.780 |

| PSP # | 8 | 18 | 4.416 | 97.703 | 412.708 | 20.166.112 |

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| ALL | 215.867 | 168.445 | 233.138 | 5.616.774 | 7.227.454 | 55.576.880 |

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| PSVTV | 986 | 1.285 | 3.772 | 70.942 | 59.203 | 147.186 |

| PSV | 22.355 | 27.935 | 25.594 | 995.323 | 986.650 | 3.274.436 |

|n-3DSLL| 63.714 | 48.738 | | 569.835 | | 569.835 |

| n-3DS | 25.541 | 22.875 | | 238.312 | | 238.312 |

| 3DSLL | 17.319 | 15.182 | 92.375 | 1.329.140 | 2.900.860 | 6.755.026 |

| 3DS | 38.846 | 19.722 | 32.894 | 489.510 | 1.365.321 | 9.725.544 |

| PSP | 8 | 18 | 4.416 | 97.703 | 412.708 | 19.990.125 |

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Sales for smash are good. Hardware not so much and pretty much now confirms that no game will turn around hardware sales.

 

Also anyone who questions Nintendo releasing smash on 3DS first needs help. Very smart decision by Nintendo.

 

Wii U is Toxic!

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Sales for smash are good. Hardware not so much and pretty much now confirms that no game will turn around hardware sales.

 

Also anyone who questions Nintendo releasing smash on 3DS first needs help. Very smart decision by Nintendo.

 

Wii U is Toxic!

 

Wonder if amiibo will drive any sales. :wtf:

Most people STILL don't know there is a new system. They have ruined the systems sales through their dire marketing approach and mixed message.

 

It's crazy how many people I work with that have bought PS4's for their kids for Christmas based on the fact that it's the 4th version and they know it's the 'new playstation'. Nintendo ballsed up the WiiU's market awareness by name alone.

 

The sad thing is they won't change their marketing approach. Even some Christmas adverts along the lines of 'Did U know...' would have been good.

Did u know...you can play on the GamePad.

Did u know...free online. No subscription required

Did u know...best action game of 2014 Bayonetta 2

Did u know...Amiibo's/touch screen/virtual console...

 

No playing on the nostalgia for Wii Sports with the new version. No mario 3D World promo this year. No Mario Kart 8 Amiibo ads. Bayonetta ads?

 

Their marketing budget for Europe must be locked down tighter than Iwata's wallet. It has been embarrassing for system owners to see nintendo almost 'dismiss' the system from a marketing point of view. Thankfully they have been busy on their games, producing what many would regard as the best in their franchises so far.

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What bothers me is that the next Zelda might be the best ever, and yet go totally unappreciated because of the system it's on. I'm telling people how good it looks at the moment, and yet they're so put off by the Wii U itself, they can't see past that.

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Wonder if amiibo will drive any sales. :wtf:

Most people STILL don't know there is a new system. They have ruined the systems sales through their dire marketing approach and mixed message.

 

It's crazy how many people I work with that have bought PS4's for their kids for Christmas based on the fact that it's the 4th version and they know it's the 'new playstation'. Nintendo ballsed up the WiiU's market awareness by name alone.

 

The sad thing is they won't change their marketing approach. Even some Christmas adverts along the lines of 'Did U know...' would have been good.

Did u know...you can play on the GamePad.

Did u know...free online. No subscription required

Did u know...best action game of 2014 Bayonetta 2

Did u know...Amiibo's/touch screen/virtual console...

 

No playing on the nostalgia for Wii Sports with the new version. No mario 3D World promo this year. No Mario Kart 8 Amiibo ads. Bayonetta ads?

 

Their marketing budget for Europe must be locked down tighter than Iwata's wallet. It has been embarrassing for system owners to see nintendo almost 'dismiss' the system from a marketing point of view. Thankfully they have been busy on their games, producing what many would regard as the best in their franchises so far.

Just today a girl at my work was saying she was going to buy a Wii game for one of her young relatives/cousin/whatever and said she hadn't realised there was this "other Wii" which has now complicated matters for her. Them casuals, they just don't know!

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What bothers me is that the next Zelda might be the best ever, and yet go totally unappreciated because of the system it's on. I'm telling people how good it looks at the moment, and yet they're so put off by the Wii U itself, they can't see past that.

 

Or perhaps it will get a lot of love at the end of the Wii U's life when prices are slashed.

 

Every cloud...?

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Wonder if amiibo will drive any sales. :wtf:

Most people STILL don't know there is a new system. They have ruined the systems sales through their dire marketing approach and mixed message.

 

It's crazy how many people I work with that have bought PS4's for their kids for Christmas based on the fact that it's the 4th version and they know it's the 'new playstation'. Nintendo ballsed up the WiiU's market awareness by name alone.

 

The sad thing is they won't change their marketing approach. Even some Christmas adverts along the lines of 'Did U know...' would have been good.

Did u know...you can play on the GamePad.

Did u know...free online. No subscription required

Did u know...best action game of 2014 Bayonetta 2

Did u know...Amiibo's/touch screen/virtual console...

 

No playing on the nostalgia for Wii Sports with the new version. No mario 3D World promo this year. No Mario Kart 8 Amiibo ads. Bayonetta ads?

 

Their marketing budget for Europe must be locked down tighter than Iwata's wallet. It has been embarrassing for system owners to see nintendo almost 'dismiss' the system from a marketing point of view. Thankfully they have been busy on their games, producing what many would regard as the best in their franchises so far.

 

Isn't it more of a case that Nintendo know full well that they can't turn around Wii U fortunes so why bother throwing money at advertising which at the end of they day won't make a major difference.

 

Nintendo are looking to ride this generation out cheaply as possible.

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NPD results are in

 

Software:

 

1.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (360, XBO, PS4, PS3, PC)

2.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)

3.) Super Smash Bros. (NWU, 3DS)

4.) Madden NFL 15 (360, XBO, PS4, PS3)

5.) Pokemon Alpha Sapphire (3DS)

6.) Far Cry 4 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3, PC)

7.) Pokemon Omega Ruby (3DS)

8.) NBA 2K15 (PS4, 360, XBO, PS3, PC)

9.) Assassin's Creed: Unity (PS4, XBO, PC)

10.) Halo: The Master Chief Collection (XBO)

 

Notes:

-Smash Wii U: 710K (retail + digital)

-Pokemon ORAS: 1.5M (retail + digital)

-Smash 3DS LTD: 1.5M (retail + digital)

-Overall Wii U software is up 90% and overall 3DS software is up 40% year over year.

 

 

Hardware:

 

Xbox One: Best selling console. 1.2 mil

Wii U: 220K * 1.1 (10% increase) = 242K

 

Seems like PS4 did 800k. That's a very good result for MS.

 

Wii U sales terrible. Smash Bros did nothing for the console and to only do 242k in November with a new game like Smash Bros is shocking. I don't think the platform will get close to GC numbers. Lucky to do 15 mil total I think. Not sure for certain but isn't it possible XB1 last month sold more than the Wii U has done all year?

 

COD and Madden 15 selling the highest on 360. Will this platform ever die? It just keeps on trucking.

 

Dec. 11, 2014

 

Overall sales of Nintendo 3DS software in November increased by more than 40 percent over the same month in 2013, thanks in part to three huge games:

 

Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire: The next great Pokémon adventures for Nintendo 3DS launched on Nov. 21 and have already sold nearly 1.5 million combined physical and digital units in the U.S. alone.

 

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS: The best-selling individual portable game in the U.S. so far in 2014, Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS has sold more than 1.5 million physical and digital units in the U.S. since it launched on Oct. 3.

 

November was also a strong month for Nintendo on the console side, as sales of Wii U hardware and software increased by more than 10 percent and more than 90 percent, respectively, over the same period in 2013. In fact, the week of Nov. 23 was the biggest single week of Wii U hardware sales since the system launched in November 2012. Other Wii U highlights for the month include:

 

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U has sold nearly 710,000 combined units since launching on Nov. 21. With a current Metacritic score of 92, the latest iteration in Nintendo’s venerable fighting franchise is one of the best-reviewed games in the current generation of systems.

 

Nov. 21 also saw the arrival of amiibo, Nintendo’s new platform where gaming’s most recognizable characters can be used in different ways in many compatible games. Sales of amiibo are approximately equal to sales of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U so far, while Link, Mario and Pikachu (in that order) have been the best-selling figures to date.

 

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=42356

 

700k for Amiibo sounds very positive

 

9.) Assassin's Creed: Unity (PS4, XBO, PC) Ouch ubisoft.

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The Wii U numbers are shocking, especially when you consider it was Black Friday. I guess Nintendo are happy for the thing to just chug along.

 

Great result for Microsoft, though not at all surprising. They've been really aggressive with their advertising, bundles and price cuts in the past month or so. It will be interesting to see if they put the price back up after Christmas.

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The Wii U numbers are shocking, especially when you consider it was Black Friday. I guess Nintendo are happy for the thing to just chug along.

 

Great result for Microsoft, though not at all surprising. They've been really aggressive with their advertising, bundles and price cuts in the past month or so. It will be interesting to see if they put the price back up after Christmas.

 

Hopefully not. It seems they have found the correct price point now.

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Those Wii U numbers are simply laughable. Jeez :(

 

Yep the days of 'Mario, Mario Kart and Smash Bros will save Wii U' are well and truly over.

 

No title is saving this console and it wont even get close to GC numbers when all said and done.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. We'll see Nintendo's next home console launch in 2016.

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Nintendo need to market the bloody thing.

 

Their marketing has been atrocious. If they actually bothered to advertise it, it might actually sell more than three units a year.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. We'll see Nintendo's next home console launch in 2016.

 

Defo the handheld. They'll likely launch the home console in 2017 (5 year cycle). It's key that they nail down the OS with their next handheld first before shifting some resource over to the home console.

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Nintendo need to market the bloody thing.

 

Their marketing has been atrocious. If they actually bothered to advertise it, it might actually sell more than three units a year.

 

Would that actually achieve anything. More marketing doesn't necessarily translate into successful sales. Microsoft spent a fortune marketing and advertising Surface RT tablets. The end result was little sales and an eventual $900 million write off.

 

I think Nintendo are right not to waste money trying to advertise a 2 year old product that nobody wants.

 

The time to advertise aggressively was at launch and prior to the PS4 and XB1 being released. Unfortunately they got that wrong with some shocking adverts, no clear direction on selling the product so people knew what it was and not a Wii addon. Silly videos with that rufus dude and so on. The window of opportunity they had was wasted on very poor marketing and ad campaigns.

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Would that actually achieve anything. More marketing doesn't necessarily translate into successful sales. Microsoft spent a fortune marketing and advertising Surface RT tablets. The end result was little sales and an eventual $900 million write off.

 

I think Nintendo are right not to waste money trying to advertise a 2 year old product that nobody wants.

 

The time to advertise aggressively was at launch and prior to the PS4 and XB1 being released. Unfortunately they got that wrong with some shocking adverts, no clear direction on selling the product so people knew what it was and not a Wii addon. Silly videos with that rufus dude and so on. The window of opportunity they had was wasted on very poor marketing and ad campaigns.

 

 

add RIM with the blackberry phones and the tablet they released also. they advertised loads and it achieved nothing!

 

if people are not interested in a product then no amount of marketing will change that opinion.

 

like you said, the time to advertise was before and in early stages of release. the problem was that the advertising that nintendo did do was really bad and then the fact that that there was very little software to advertise with the machine.

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Marketing the machine is pointless now because gamers are already investing in the PS4 and One (or PC) and the casuals have moved on to iPads and other such devices for those quick-burst games. The only chance the WiiU has got is with the type of gamer who wants to experience everything, including the "quirky" types of stuff that Nintendo produces. This is a minority. Those types of gamers are already going to be clued up because they're the type who know the ins and outs of the gaming world, so the WiiU already exists to them.

 

Tbh, I want the machine to die a death and for Nintendo to go away and re-evaluate things and make the changes necessary (of which there are many) before coming back with a proper console. It's frightening how many people are unaware about the machine.

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