Debug Mode Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 FUCKING FAN BOYS. With the current information of titles in development and possible price tags, I'm leaning more towards the PSP2 being a favourite here.
Pit-Jr Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 While Nintendo do make sequels (Well duh, they're a business), they at least try new things, not just same mechanics in a new setting (for the most part) He was referring to this comment about Nintendo
Diageo Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Because the comments are made so defensively Diag. And it's bitter. To me, the most defensive a bitter comment was the one Jon ST made that first replied to Serebii. I'll get the NGP when some decent games come for it. Uncharted never interested me and the rest are all same old stuff Because Nintendo aren't known for recycling the same games. I like how everyone says they'd be better off getting a PS3 than paying for the NGP. The same could be said for the 3DS, which is identically priced as the PS3. 3D is supposed to be the peak of visual entertainment, to me that just doesn't go with the third rate graphics found on Nintendo consoles/handhelds. I guarantee if Nintendo had stuck a rear touch pad on the DS, all the haters would be praising it as COMPLETE INNOVATION. It does worry me that it could get easily dirty but it could have some awesome uses in games. Starting an argument right there.
Tellyn Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 He was referring to this comment about Nintendo You mean the one that was made right after JonSt brought the goddamn topic up in the first place? EDIT: Diageo brings the illustrations to my point.
Retro_Link Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 The 3DS and PSP2 aren't even in competetion. Yes they're both handheld games consoles, but the 3DS is purely about gaming and wowing people with 3D without glasses and appeals to an arguably younger audience over all, the PSP2 is going after the Apple market, about multi-media, wowing people with PS3-like graphics and arguably aimed at an older audience. They're not two versions of the same product, like trying to decide whether to get an 360 or PS3. @Aimless, that was a stupid comment about the 3DS' games, because the PSP will get a Ridge Racer, Street Fighter, DoA and probably some updated ports/collections etc...
Jon Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) To me, the most defensive a bitter comment was the one Jon ST made that first replied to Serebii. Starting an argument right there. First off, it's JonSt. Secondly, i'm not attempting to start an argument. It simply annoys me that someone states having the old stuff or familiar franchises is a bad thing when it's the same policy that the other handheld maker uses. I also don't understand how that can be justified by the other handheld maker because they're including new control methods. I'm pretty sure the rear touch screen is new on a handheld gaming device. If I was a fanboy i'd be in the DS board posting shit all the time, I don't. Edited January 27, 2011 by Jon
Debug Mode Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I think people seriously need to drop this whole 'rehash' shit. Every place is getting it. The Wii, 360, PS3, DS, 3DS, PSP, PSP2.. We're all getting fucked up the ass and the majority of us will still lap up that shit. The PSP2 will enjoy it's PS2 ports, PS3 ports and FPS barrage. The 3DS will get N64 ports, Dreamcast ports (Rayman seems to be the only example here), shovelware such as 'Touch! Babies' (AWWW YEEAH) and mini game barrage.
Diageo Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 First off, it's JonSt. Secondly, i'm not attempting to start an argument. It simply annoys me that someone states having the old stuff or familiar franchises is a bad thing when it's the same policy that the other handheld maker uses. That's apparently OK though because the other handheld maker uses new control methods. I'm pretty sure the rear touch pad is something new on a gaming device. If I was a fanboy i'd be in the DS board posting shit all the time, I don't. Giant apologies for placing a space and capital letter in. Maybe he meant to say, "The same old stuff I DON'T LIKE". If you like Nintendo games and they rehash the same stuff, you will probably like it. But if COD makes a new game and you never liked the franchise, you're going to say it's the same old stuff [you never liked], it's not changing in a fashion that appeals you, therefore it's the same old stuff.
Debug Mode Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Gamestop has listed it at a predicted price of $999.99 Although it's a prediction, that's pretty steep, especially considering how Sony love to only change the dollar to a Euro when pricing in Europe.
The Lillster Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 As you said, it's to be expected from a new machine, giving customers a taste of tried and tested games and franchises to 'ease' them into the console. However, I take issue with the way the 'fanboy' card is instantly pulled out should someone like Serebii comment on another brand of console (Lillster's comment - what?). I never mentioned Serebii or anyone else for that matter, so why is it you automatically think I'm taking the anti Nintendo side?
Aimless Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 @Aimless, that was a stupid comment about the 3DS' games, because the PSP will get a Ridge Racer, Street Fighter, DoA and probably some updated ports/collections etc... I'm not sure why you're being so defensive. I even explicitly stated: For the record I'm not bemoaning the above, it's the sort of thing you expect around the launch of a new machine. I just think there's a bit of a double-standard going on. I'm not saying the 3DS' lineup is any less valid than the NGP having versions of Uncharted, Killzone, etc. My point is that it isn't more valid, either.
Cube Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 It's a shame after all these years we can't have a debate about two different gaming devices without resorting to fanboyism. They're both aimed at different people and are very different consoles. There isn't really any debating to be done.
The Lillster Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 They're both aimed at different people and are very different consoles. There isn't really any debating to be done. So basically everyone is arguing for the sake of it?
Jon Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Giant apologies for placing a space and capital letter in. Maybe he meant to say, "The same old stuff I DON'T LIKE". If you like Nintendo games and they rehash the same stuff, you will probably like it. But if COD makes a new game and you never liked the franchise, you're going to say it's the same old stuff [you never liked], it's not changing in a fashion that appeals you, therefore it's the same old stuff. If you're going to direct something at me, please at least have the common decency to get the 5 letter username right. I apologise if I offended people and probably didn't get my point across in the way that I should have. We all have our own opinions obviously and they are what they are.
Retro_Link Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) I'm not sure why you're being so defensive. I even explicitly stated: I'm not saying the 3DS' lineup is any less valid than the NGP having versions of Uncharted, Killzone, etc. My point is that it isn't more valid, either. Oh seriously Aimless don't say 'defensive' as though you think I actually give a shit, or want to get into any arguement. Believe me, I'm not being even the slightest bit defensive about anything. Edited January 27, 2011 by Retro_Link
Debug Mode Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Oh seriously Aimless don't say 'defensive' as though you think I actually give a shit, or want to get into any arguement. Believe me, I'm not being even the slightest bit defensive about anything. I don't even know wtf you're talking about. You sound pretty defensive about being accused of being defensive
Tellyn Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 You sound pretty defensive about being accused of being defensive
Retro_Link Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Yeah I appologise Aimless, that was a bit of an over-reaction!... it's just any arguing over DS/PSP is SO pathetic.
Jon Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Yeah I appologise Aimless, that was a bit of an over-reaction!... it's just any arguing over DS/PSP is SO pathetic. Yeah, get over it all ready
flameboy Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 The two devices in a lot of ways aren't even competiting. They are very different devices...along with two very different ways of showing off their tech unique 3D vs Home console on a handheld graphucs. However naturally they are still in the same market and the online connectivity of both devices shows how they see this as just as important as online has become for home consoles. One final thing I love the way the live space looks. wouldn't be too displeased if that replaced xmb at some point on ps3.
dwarf Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Almost chundered when I saw that back touchpad being used to climb the vine in the Unch vid. And you just knew they'd claim it would be immersive, and the actions were similar to that of climbing in real life. No. Just no. You don't haul your body weight up a wall by rubbing your fingers against it. Plus it's awkward to control. If I ever got one of these machines I wouldn't want to be playing Uncharted on it anyway. And as for graphics - this is early stages I know - I'd say they're akin to a 'Playstation 2.5'.
Aimless Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Fair enough, I wasn't trying to rile anyone. I can only go on what people type, sorry if I read into things incorrectly. Whilst the NGP seems more to my taste, I'm expecting this generation of handhelds to play out fairly similar to the last one. The 3DS will have slightly less success than its predecessor — this is something of an inevitability given the obscene sales of the DS — hopefully Sony's handheld will do a bit better, at least in terms of software sales and retaining developer support, but I can't see either switching market positions. Meanwhile everyone will say how smartphones spell doom for both, but I think they expand the handheld market as much as they detract from it. So long as everyone's successful enough to keep making games I don't really care. To go back to pricing, I can't see the 3G NGP going for less than £249 at launch; I think that's a best case scenario. Nowhere near a mass market price, but it doesn't really have to be day-one, even if it means I can't afford one.
Pit-Jr Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Almost chundered when I saw that back touchpad being used to climb the vine in the Unch vid. And you just knew they'd claim it would be immersive, and the actions were similar to that of climbing in real life.No. Just no. You don't haul your body weight up a wall by rubbing your fingers against it. Plus it's awkward to control. Ha, yeah ill be pressing UP to climb as usual or maybe touch drag him up if im feeling risky. I did like the tilt aiming bit though.
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