The Dark Knight Rises (Spoilers inside, enter at own risk)

[Captain Falcon]

The Riddler is just a bit of a shit villain tbf.

 

I think Nolan could have made him interesting and credible enough to be worthy of being the main villain in a film.

[ReZourceman]

It why he is who he is.

 

Alright dwarf.

 

Fixed;

 

[Paj!]

Riddler's a fine villain in the comics, and I love him in the 90's animated series, but he's too silly to work translated faithfully, and an "edgier" one would just come off as awkward and too similar to Joker. The end.

[EEVILMURRAY]

Maybe that was Nolan's plan. Make Joker similar to Riddler.

[Twozzok]

Apparently (according to ReZ) I'm an idiot for not knowing DK was a sequel !_!

[Shorty]

Batman Rises is a terrible name. Really bad. Rises from what? To where? Since when is Batman ever a 'Risen' kind of hero? And it hardly follows the end of the previous film.

[Retro_Link]

Batman Rises is a terrible name. Really bad. Rises from what? To where? Since when is Batman ever a 'Risen' kind of hero? And it hardly follows the end of the previous film.

Batman rises is the name I quickly came up with as being better than the official title, The Dark Knight rises.

 

"Rises" as in he comes out of hiding.

"Rises" back into the hearts of Gotham

"Rises" to a whole new level of badass, "Rises to the challenge"

"Rises" above the threat that faces Gotham

 

I don't know, maybe Nolan has a completely different notion of what he whats "Rises" to mean for the purpose of this film!

 

... however, I struggle to see how you can't find any meaning in it!?

[chairdriver]

I think the name is perfectly fine tbh.

[EEVILMURRAY]

I don't know, maybe Nolan has a completely different notion of what he whats "Rises" to mean for the purpose of this film!

An erection. It's going to be a porno.

[Shorty]

... however, I struggle to see how you can't find any meaning in it!?

Sorry, wasn't trying to attack you, I just don't think it fits Batman as a character. Gotham isn't supposed to like Batman, they're meant to fear him. Superman's more of a rising type.

[Daft]

I think the name is perfectly fine tbh.

 

That's because you're wrong.

[Retro_Link]

Sorry, wasn't trying to attack you, I just don't think it fits Batman as a character. Gotham isn't supposed to like Batman, they're meant to fear him. Superman's more of a rising type.

Oh no I didn't see it as an attack, and I fully get what you mean. At first guess you would assume he's basically looking as it in terms of redemption in the hearts of Gotham's citizens... but it could mean all manner of things.

 

Is it the entirity of Gotham and not just the criminal underworls who are meant to fear him?

Edited October 27, 2010 by Retro_Link

[EEVILMURRAY]

Gotham isn't supposed to like Batman, they're meant to fear him.

Especially with the silly logic they came up with at the end of the Dark Knight

Superman's more of a rising type.

Apparently not, he's more of the returning type.

[jayseven]

Well I think teh name sucks too - but it makes some sense to have it explicitly related to TDK.

 

BB and TDK aren't as related to each other as TDK and TDKR are/will be. It's like the Millenium book trilogy -the first book gives birth to the character and introduces you to how they work, the other two take teh character, changes the character then sees the character overcome the change and return to status quo.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Apparently (according to ReZ) I'm an idiot for not knowing DK was a sequel !_!

 

Well, you kind of are... you seriously didn't know?

[Tellyn]

I don't have a problem with the name. It makes sense that it's linked to The Dark Knight anyway, since it was such a massive box office success.

[Jonnas]

Really, the only thing I dislike about the name is that it's so similar to its predecessor. It's fine, anyway.

[Pancake]

I really hate the name. It sounds like some ham-fisted idea some suit came up with, to link in with the success of TDK.

 

I love Nolan for fighting against it being 3D though. That would have been shit and gimicky, and again, something for the suits...

[Dante]

Full interview can be found here.

[chairdriver]

That's because you're wrong.

 

OK.

 

(I was going to post just that, but I didn't want to give the impression that I was being snarky/sarcastic. I've realised that being defensive to the bone about irrelevant things is a bad quality, which comes as a side-effect of forever feeling the need to defend my position in life. My realisation comes as an offshoot of my digestion of one of my favourite Alanis Morissette lyrics "I too thought that once proved wrong I lost somehow". I was going to post that as well, but again, I felt it wouldn't satisfactorily convey what I was feeling/thinking.

 

You might perhaps say that this is a very silly circumstance in which to elaborate on these thoughts, as one might regard the quality of a title as wholly subjective. But I'm not sure I believe in full subjectiveness, and really, being a pack mammal which naturally prescribes to the concept of a pecking order, I perceive you as occupying the same region of the domain of judgement of artistic value/merit (ie |d-c|<e, where d, c represents the variable points you and I occupy, respectively, and e is a positive constant), so therefore weigh your opinion/thoughts quite heavily, and am more inclined to base my own judgement on an aspect of yours.)

Edited October 27, 2010 by chairdriver

[Paj!]

...

 

[chairdriver]

I'm just so fucking bored of beating round the bush. Some people's opinions matter. Other's don't.

[Daft]

OK.

 

(I was going to post just that, but I didn't want to give the impression that I was being snarky/sarcastic. I've realised that being defensive to the bone about irrelevant things is a bad quality, which comes as a side-effect of forever feeling the need to defend my position in life. My realisation comes as an offshoot of my digestion of one of my favourite Alanis Morissette lyrics "I too thought that once proved wrong I lost somehow". I was going to post that as well, but again, I felt it wouldn't satisfactorily convey what I was feeling/thinking.

 

You might perhaps say that this is a very silly circumstance in which to elaborate on these thoughts, as one might regard the quality of a title as wholly subjective. But I'm not sure I believe in full subjectiveness, and really, being a pack mammal which naturally prescribes to the concept of a pecking order, I perceive you as occupying the same region of the domain of judgement of artistic value/merit (ie |d-c|<e, where d, c represents the variable points you and I occupy, respectively, and e is a positive constant), so therefore weigh your opinion/thoughts quite heavily, and am more inclined to base my own judgement on an aspect of yours.)

 

I get you, but I was joking. I think it's a clumsy title but then Nolan isn't exactly the sveltest of directors and in the grand scheme of things it's going to matter very little.

 

I love your post, though.

[Nintendohnut]

Rumours about Tom Hardy's Character:

 

Ever since Tom Hardy was announced as a lead in the next Batman film, now officially named The Dark Knight Rises, rumours have been circulating as to which character he'd be playing.

 

Our own theory had Hardy portraying psychologically fractured supercop Max Cort - but now the IMDb are rumouring that he will be playing another, more famous member of the Gotham PD; Detective Harvey Bullock.

 

Bullock and the Bat have a long history, with the Detective first appearing in the comic in the 1970s as a crooked cop.

 

After the reboot of the Batman timeline in the 1980s, Bullock became a more heroic figure, albeit one who is well known for his dislike of The Bat, and for his aggresive temper.

 

Most importantly, Bullock is known for getting results the old fashioned way; bringing criminals to justice with good solid policework rather than a cowl and cape.

 

For this reason the IMDb's listing carries weight - Detective Bullock fits very neatly into Christopher Nolan's Gotham, a cop who is fiercely loyal to Commissioner Gordon, and to the badge - a real, complex character without masks or make-up.

 

TotalFilm Link

[Retro_Link]

Full interview can be found here.

 

This will always be such a bloody incredible image.

 

I was perhaps hoping for more from Tom Hardy's character, I haven't heard of Harvey Bullock (would they use another Harvey after Harvey Dent?), but it sounds a decent enough addition I suppose and Hardy will no doubt be brilliant.

Tbh, I wasn't really expecting him to be the lead villain anyway, despite maybe hoping so.

Edited October 28, 2010 by Retro_Link