Posted November 8, 2010 Try using google or youtube before calling someone out. Yeah the game has alot of other issues too. Treyarch actually responded and moaned about people finding issues. Why not fix something as obvious as the care package glitch before launch in the first place? There will be plenty of issues come launch. If new stuff come they wont be able to keep on top of it. The top MW1, WAW and MW2 players already are placing it behind MW2 for online. I dont balme them the complaints sound irritating. Link? 101010101010 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 search youtube. Also other forums have plenty of info and people who have already hit prestige several times. placing it behind the other games because of glitches? Half of them won't even have played it yet. I bet you 1 in 10 games online you play will have people doing the care package glitch. Not that big a deal, just go kill them and steal them if they do. Thats the best we can do. Lets hope they patch it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 yeah, I do hope it gets patched but I thought they would have used the same code as MW2 so it does seem a bit strange and who does the testing!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Looks like there are a lot of deals going on in the supermarkets. There was an awesome post earlier on hotukdeals which gave a summary of all the deals at the supermarkets (some of them rumours but most confirmed), but it's been pulled down for some reason so I can't link it. Still, looks like everywhere is doing deals, depending on what you want to buy/spend some are better than others. Sainsburys has it for around £28 if you spend £30 instore, there are a few similar ones but with trade-ins instead of cash, and as someone mentioned above tesco is doing a deal. search youtube. Also other forums have plenty of info and people who have already hit prestige several times. I find it a little hard to believe that 'top players of MW2, WAW, MW etc are already placing this below MW2 for multiplayer'. First of all, who are these top players? Professionals? Or just people who played the game a lot? And how did they get their hands on this game and play it enough to make a clear and fair decision? At the very earliest they would have got the game a day or two ago, and even if they were playing it constantly (somehow) they wouldn't have put as much time into it yet as they did with MW2. Basically I'm saying I can't be arsed searching youtube for something I don't believe is true. If you want your posts to be more believable post the links rather than just saying 'google it'. And if you get a chance have a quick look at Dante's posts for how news should be done on a forum. Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 PM'd it. Let me know if it worked. Thanks. I've passed in on to the person dealing with the 'tag, I'll let you know if there's any issues. For the uninitiated I suppose I should explain what I meant by a proxy Gamertag. Basically it's a workaround for Live's rather basic Friend system, so a 'tag is created which everyone intending to play the game joins, then other people can see who's online using the View Friends of Friend function. It's not a perfect system but it's better than nothing. Anyway, seems like the game received an update yesterday that tweaked some things in multiplayer. I don't know if it got rid of the care package glitch. Certainly seems to have put an end to quick-scoping, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 And if you get a chance have a quick look at Dante's posts for how news should be done on a forum. Cheers! Dante's posts could also be a lot better if he voiced his own opinion after the article! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Dante's posts could also be a lot better if he voiced his own opinion after the article! True! That's why I'd appreciate Choze's posts if he expressed his opinion like he did above, and THEN posted a link. That would be a win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Try using google or youtube before calling someone out. Yeah the game has alot of other issues too. Treyarch actually responded and moaned about people finding issues. Why not fix something as obvious as the care package glitch before launch in the first place? There will be plenty of issues come launch. If new stuff come they wont be able to keep on top of it. The top MW1, WAW and MW2 players already are placing it behind MW2 for online. I dont balme them the complaints sound irritating. The point is that if you're going to state facts in a post, you ought to do so with some back-up, rather than replying on other posters to do the search in order to continue the discussion. It may be minute, but it's effort that you can guarentee 90% of users won't bother. It's just common fucking sense to do it if you want to be taken at all seriously, otherwise you just come across as a trollshark waiting for someone to take the bait. So in essence; fuck off. Dante's posts could also be a lot better if he voiced his own opinion after the article! True - but doing precisely the opposite is no better. It's just douchebaggery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 The point is that if you're going to state facts in a post, you ought to do so with some back-up, rather than replying on other posters to do the search in order to continue the discussion. It may be minute, but it's effort that you can guarentee 90% of users won't bother. It's just common fucking sense to do it if you want to be taken at all seriously, otherwise you just come across as a trollshark waiting for someone to take the bait. So in essence; fuck off. @ bolded bit: Well said good sir. Choze, you've been pretty much against the game from the start from what I've seen so why you waste your time trolling the thread is beyond me. Ironically, however, I very much doubt this will be as much the mess your trying to make it sound as that still-in-beta-mess that is MAG. Anyway, did contemplate going to ASDA to get this at midnight but the weather up here is atrocious (amazing, who would have thought that heavy rain/gales and Scotland would go hand in hand :P). Will just pick it up tomorrow morning on the way to Uni. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Well im off to Game at midnight tonight to get myself a copy (hopefully), ive decided to go with them coz i can buy Fallout: NV for £40 and get Black Ops for £25 (promotional offer), but to make things better ive got a £22 gift card to spend thus getting 2 games for just over £40!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 My complete lack of skill with Snipers and Melee has pretty much insured that I just can't win at Wager Matches, as one of both is always prominent... I've lost tons of monney already, ah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 I very much doubt this will be as much the mess your trying to make it sound as that still-in-beta-mess that is MAG. I'm not defending Choze here but practice what you preach and get your facts right - MAG is a fantastic game and your quote about it is wrong on all levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 MAG is a fantastic game and your quote about it is wrong on all levels. It really isn't, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 I finished the story earlier and although the ending wasn't as epic as MW2 I still enjoyed it just as much. Make sure you watch til the end of the credits. I hopped online for a bit with my mates and we played against the bots, The game calls all of the bots by names that are on your friendslist! I was killed many times by Beermonkey and Cube. I then hopped into some wager matches and I have to say I LOVE the one bullet one kill mode. You really have to gauge whether you stay and hide while the other players use up their lives or go all out and get some points but at the risk of being shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 It really isn't, though. It really is though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 It really is though. Okay, I'm not being biased or anything, I actually played the game a while and it's far from being bad. It's just not very good. It's a good effort, but it falls short of it's premise in pretty much every single account. Are you gonna offer any sort of insight as to why you think it's so great, or is just great because you like it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Less talk about crappy other games tell more about Black Ops Oxigen:bouncy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) far from being bad. It's just not very good. It's a good effort, but it falls short of it's premise in pretty much every single account. Great writing there your analysis is fantastic. Are you gonna offer any sort of insight as to why you think it's so great, or is just great because you like it? Hmmmm why do I like it? Well for starters it doesn't fall short of it's premise in any account - Zipper created a Massive Action Game with 256 online players. MAG is an incredibly deep online shooter which rewards working together in an 8 man squad. Communication is key and some incredible strategic decisions can be made. If you just go on for a quick blast you'll be bitterly disappointed. MAG is probably the most updated game on the Playstation - Zipper are constantly tweaking the game and listening to their community. The recently released MAG 2.0 update was fantastic. QUOTE]Patch Alert: MAG 2.0 The big day is here! There is so much new content in MAG 2.0 that telling you how important or huge this is for the game, its fans, and for us seems unnecessary. Take one look at the changes listed below and you’ll understand why we’re calling this MAG 2.0 PlayStation Move support, an increased level cap, our revamped skill tree, the new economy system, and our highly-demanded clan deploy feature are just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many fantastic new or improved items in MAG 2.0 it’s almost like a whole new game! A big thanks to all of you who have helped us get to this point with your support, your suggestions, and your mad beta testing skills. We hope you have as much fun playing MAG 2.0 as we did making it. Patch v2.0 Available September 30th, 2010 | 36MB (TPPS), 532MB (DLS) Gameplay (General) Character level cap has been increased from level 60 to level 70 Added new “Supply Depot†menu and in-game economy system (see “Gameplay – Economy†section for details) Implemented new “Clan Deploy†feature that allows Clan Leaders and Officers to deploy into group queues of up to 128 players Characters moving from MAG v1.XX to MAG 2.0 will receive an immediate and automatic Respec the first time they log in Repair Kits can now inflict damage on enemy soldiers, vehicles and objectives XP rate for “Repair†has been increased from 1.5XP/ 10pts to 3XP/ 10pts Players can now track all “sprinting†enemies on the mini-map without the need for equipment All “Damage Bar†rates for “Domination†maps have reverted back to their original (and identical) values Tuned the frequency in which a player can jump to eliminate “bunny hopper†techniques Reduced helicopter settle time, widened turret rotation and significantly increased health to strengthen their use as a forward spawn point The “Silent Step†OIC Leadership ability now works as intended by allowing nearby squadmates to move at both regular and running speeds without detection from the motion sensor – does not stack with any related skills or modifiers Gameplay – (Economy) Added in-game currency known as “Currency Points (CP)†that is awarded for by completing objectives, earning ribbons, finishing missions, and killing enemies All gear and weapons are now located by default or can be sold or purchased in the “Supply Depot†menu Gameplay – Skills (Overall) All Skills cost only one point per unlock, allowing players to purchase new skills with every level increase Removed all gear and weapon attainment from the “Skills†menu, they now reside in the separate “Supply Depot†Added “Engineering, Medical, Resistances, Special Ops,†and ‘Vehicles†meta-categories to the “Skills†menu Removed “Electronics, Explosives, Heavy, Personal Defense,†and “Support†meta-categories from the “Skills†menu Each meta-category in the “Skills†menu now has multi-branching paths The “Advanced Grenades, Improved Resuscitation, Improved Shot Detection, Improved Stealth,†and “Knives Expanded Reach†skills have all been eliminated or rolled into other skills (see Skills sub-sections below for details) Respec Points progression has been changed from 1K, 2K, 3K, 3K-Repeat to 1K, 3K, 5K, 5K-Repeat Respec Points can no longer be “banked†and are capped at the amount needed for the next Respec Gameplay – Skills (Assault) Added the following skills to the “Assault†menu: “Assault Swap Speed†and “Rocket Launcher Reload Speed†Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Assault†skills: “Assault Reload Speed, Assault Rifle Steady Aim, Assault Swap Speed, Grenade Launcher Reload Speed,†and “Rocket Launcher Reload Speed†“Assault Reload Speed†skill has changed and now decreases the reload time for all assault rifles and machine guns “Assault Rifle Improved Stability†skill has been renamed to “Assault Recoil Stability†and has been changed to reduce the recoil on all assault rifles and machine guns “Assault Swap Speed†skill has been changed and now decreases the amount of time it takes to swap assault rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers and grenade launchers Gameplay – Skills (Marksman) Added the following skills to the “Marksman†menu: “Increased Scope Magnification, Marksman Fire Rate, Marksman Recoil Stability†and “Marksman Swap Speed†Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Marksman†skills: “Increased Scope Magnification, Marksman Fire Rate, Marksman Reload Speed, Marksman Recoil Stability, Marksman Steady Aim,†and “Marksman Swap Speed†New “Increased Scope Magnification†skill increases the level of zoom when using a scope on a sniper rifle New “Marksman Fire Rate†skill increases the rate of fire for all sniper rifles New “Marksman Recoil Stability†skill reduces the amount of recoil on sniper rifles New “Marksman Swap Speed†skill decreases the amount of time it takes to swap sniper rifles Gameplay – Skills (Close Quarters) Added the following skills to the “Close Quarters†menu: “Close Quarters Fire Rate, Close Quarters Swap Speed, Improved Knife Damage,†and “Knife Frequency†Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Close Quarters†skills: “Close Quarters Fire Rate, Close Quarters Recoil Stability, Close Quarters Reload Speed, Close Quarters Swap Speed, Improved Knife Damage,†and “Knife Frequency†“Close Quarters Improved Stability†skill has been renamed to “Close Quarters Recoil†stability and has been changed to reduced recoil on all pistols, personal defense weapons, submachine guns and shotguns New “Close Quarters Fire Rate†skill increases the fire rate of all pistols, personal defense weapons, submachine guns and shotguns New “Close Quarters Swap Speed†skill decreases the amount of time it takes to swap all pistols, personal defense weapons, submachine guns and shotguns New “Improved Knife Damage†skill increases the amount of damage knife attacks do to enemy soldiers “Knives Improved Swipe Speed†Skill has been renamed to Knife Frequency†skill, which decreases the time between knife attacks Gameplay – Skills (Special Ops) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Special Ops†menu: “Extended Tracking Duration, Improved Acoustic Locator, Improved Explosive Detector, Improved Motion Tracker, Improved Sensor Jammer†and “Improved Suppressors†New “Extended Tracking Duration†skill increases the amount of time a detected enemy is tracked on the mini-map and CNI New “Improved Acoustic Locator†skill increases the effective range of an equipped Acoustic Locator gear item New “Improved Explosive Detector†skill allows a soldier with an Explosives Detector gear item equipped to approach enemy mines while prone without triggering them New “Improved Motion Tracker†skill increases the range an equipped Motion Tracker gear item detects enemy movement New “Improved Sensor Jammer†skill allows a soldier with Sensor Jammer gear items to move at a faster rate before being spotted by enemy Motion Trackers, as well as masking nearby squadmates New “Improved Suppressors†skill increases the effectiveness of any suppressor when mounted on a weapon Gameplay – Skills (Medical) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Medical†menu: “Heal Recharge Rate, Improved Healing, Improved Resupply Rate, Medical Kit Heal Range, Self Heal Speed,†and “Resuscitation†New “Heal Recharge Rate†skill reduces the time between medical kit and first aid kit applications New “Improved Resupply Rate†skill reduces the time it takes to refill your gear and ammo at supply points New “Medical Kit Heal Range†skill increases the range a medical kit can heal wounded teammates New “Self Heal Speed†skill decreases the time it takes to apply a first aid kit or medical kit when self-healing Gameplay – Skills (Engineering) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Engineering†menu: “Advanced Electronics, Advanced Explosives, Improved Repair Kit Damage, Improved Repairing,†and “Mine Deploy Speed†New “Advanced Electronics†skill decreases the amount of time it takes to take control of battlefield electronics-based objectives New “Improved Repair Kit Damage†skill increases the amount of damage the repair kit does to enemy soldiers, vehicles and objective assets New “Mine Deploy Speed†skill reduces the amount of time it takes to deploy anti-personnel and anti-tank mines Gameplay – Skills (Athleticism) Added the following skills to the “Athleticism†menu: “Increased Launcher Move Speed, Increased Move Speed,†and “Improved Sprint Speed†Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Athleticism†skills: “Advanced Paratrooper, Increased Endurance, Increased Launcher Move Speed, Increased Move Speed, Improved Sprint Recovery,†and “Improved Sprint Speed†New “Increased Launcher Move Speed†skill increases the top speed a soldier moves and aims while holding a rocket launcher New “Increased Move Speed†skill increases the top speed a soldier moves normally New “Improved Sprint Speed†skill increases the top speed a soldier moves while sprinting Gameplay – Skills (Vehicles) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Vehicles†menu: “Improved Smoke Screen Rate, Improved Turret Cooldown, Improved Vehicle Awareness, Improved Vehicle Impact Damage, Increased Vehicle Speed,†and “Vehicle Mine Resistance†New “Improved Smoke Screen Rate†skill reduces the amount of time between smoke screens activated by the driver of the vehicle New “Improved Turret Cooldown†skill reduces the time it takes for the soldier’s turret weapon to cool down after it has overheated New “Improved Vehicle Awareness†skill makes the mini-map visible while a soldier is manning a vehicle or bunker turret and can be upgraded to add base Acoustic Locator and Motion Tracker functionality New “Improved Vehicle Impact Damage†skill increases the amount of damage inflicted on enemy soldiers when impacted by the driver’s vehicle New “Increased Vehicle Speed†skill increases the top speed of the vehicle the soldier is driving New “Vehicle Mine Resistance†skill decreases the amount of damage a vehicle the soldier is driving takes from enemy anti-vehicle mines Gameplay – Skills (Resistances) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Resistances†menu: “Chemical Damage Resistance, Extended Bleedout, Explosive Damage Resistance Flashbang Resistance, Impact Damage Resistance,†and “Increased Health†New “Extended Bleedout†skill increases the time a soldier can remain incapacitated before he bleeds out New “Flashbang Resistance†skill decreases the duration a soldier is affected by flashbang grenades Weapons Increased base damage on most automatic weapons by an average of 15% Improved the spread rate of Assault Rifles and Submachine guns when auto-firing so that they remain accurate longer All suppressors now reduce shooting detection range by half of their old default value Knife tuning: Reduced range by roughly 30 centimeters and decreased default “facing†damage bonuses Knife tuning: Changed knife attack angle so that a hit requires target to be closer to the center of the screen Shotgun tuning: Corrected issue that prevented all shotguns from reloading when the player was still holding the “fire†button Explosive tuning: Anti-personnel Mines now have a “line of sight†check for detonation and have been given a more realistic damage cone Explosive tuning: Increased “Anti-tank Mine†damage to vehicles by 50% Gear and Apparel Explosives Detector no longer beeps when in proximity of a teammate’s mines — only when near an enemy’s; beep frequency has also been adjusted Motion Tracker has been updated so that it is no longer based on an enemy’s speed and is now based on an enemy’s stance, detecting movement for all un-jammed players The Sensor Jammer had been updated so that all prone movement by the equipped player is masked; can be enhanced with “Improved Sensor Jammer†skill to mask crouched movement at level 1, walking at level 2 and sprinting at level 3 Light/ Improved Light Armor base speed has been reduced by nearly 3% Heavy/ Improved Heavy Armor base speed has been increased by nearly 3% Light and Heavy Armor types have been given “bonus†modifiers when used in conjunction with “Speed†skills so that Light Armors receive greater benefits and Heavy Armors receive lesser benefits Interface Added “Community News†page to better inform players in-game of all MAG-related events or promotions Different grenade types now show specific in-game icons when thrown Repaired bug that would sometimes result in the post-game results screen displaying the incorrect amount of earned XP Added “Total Awarded Currency Points†to “Bonuses†section of the character “Stats†page Audio/ Visual Thrown or launched grenades now have a “trail†effect as well as an updated overall appearance to make them more visible on the battlefield Solved issue that prevented equipped grenades to appear in the player’s hand prior to throwing them An assortment of camera and animation optimizations for various scenarios including but not limited to iron sight/ laser sight zoom, ladder climbing, mine placement, self-healing, and weapon swapping Improved presentation of the character “jump†animation Updated various pieces of artwork with newer versions for better performance Fixed issue that sometimes prevented medical device appearance and/ or animations from displaying properly Increased the Sensor Array’s animation time to match the duration of its usage Repaired bug that prevented the “Alarm†audio from being played when charges were planted at “Objective C†in the “Syr Daria Uplink†and “Darrien Network†maps Slightly lowered the amount of camera shake from air strikes, explosions, and when firing weapons Repaired camera “pop†problem that would sometimes occur when sprinting out of a parachute drop Removed “shiny†graphics that would randomly appear on bridges for all maps in which a bridge is present Fixed issue that prevented win/ loss voice-over from being played when game clock expires in “Interdiction†mode Improved visual appearance of the Ribbon awards Technical MAG now fully supports the PlayStation Move peripheral Fixed “Spooning Elevator†bug that allowed players who revived downed teammates while laying on top of them to float upwards and reach areas not intended to be accessed “MVP†criteria no longer considers bonus XP modifiers in its equation Repaired issue that disconnected some members of large-sized clans from the MAG game environment when logging in Fixed issue that would sometimes halt the patching process at 99% of the install period Resupply Depots have been optimized so that the meter accurately reflects what is being resupplied and the resupply process itself is more efficient Players can no longer take the driver’s seat in vehicles that are not their squad’s “spawn†APC, but can take any other seat in the vehicle regardless if their squad “owns†the APC or not Repaired issue with “Happy Hour†timer that would sometimes shave a few minutes off the correct total Solved problem that sometimes caused incapacitated players to rotate and move around Players are now prevented from spawning inside a helicopter that is headed out of the map Mended problem that caused the “Primary Objectives Completed†stat to sometimes double for various game types Made additional fixes for rare “game crash†scenarios Various localization updates and changes The DLC for the game has been fantastic and adds even more bang for your buck. Is there really any point in me praising this game though? you've obviously made up your mind already. Less talk about crappy other games tell more about Black Ops Oxigen:bouncy: Sorry man but had to answer him. Anyway - back to Black Ops... Edited November 8, 2010 by Cookyman Automerged Doublepost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Dead-Ops mode is so much fun. Its like playing Smash TV but with zombies! It would be even better if you could play it online in a co-op mode but I can't seem to find the option anywhere. Its not really a spoiler as you unlock it at the main menu by doing a few things but I will post how to do it anyway. Look at your hands at the main menu and press the R trigger and L trigger a few times. Once you are walking around go to the back of the room to a computer and type in DOA. This will unlock the game. If you want another achievemnt/trophy type in ZORK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Dead-Ops mode is so much fun. Its like playing Smash TV but with zombies! It would be even better if you could play it online in a co-op mode but I can't seem to find the option anywhere. Its not really a spoiler as you unlock it at the main menu by doing a few things but I will post how to do it anyway. Look at your hands at the main menu and press the R trigger and L trigger a few times. Once you are walking around go to the back of the room to a computer and type in DOA. This will unlock the game. If you want another achievemnt/trophy type in ZORK. I've been spoiling myself in anticipation of this, not on the campaign but looking up clips of zombie mode and i just literally found a video showing that! That mode looks awesome, zombies and a smash tv minigame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Came from Asda afew min ago. There is a queue. Nowhere near as big as MW2 but still biggest game of the year. I am leaning towards Tesco right now. I find it a little hard to believe that 'top players of MW2, WAW, MW etc are already placing this below MW2 for multiplayer'. First of all, who are these top players? Professionals? Or just people who played the game a lot? And how did they get their hands on this game and play it enough to make a clear and fair decision? At the very earliest they would have got the game a day or two ago, and even if they were playing it constantly (somehow) they wouldn't have put as much time into it yet as they did with MW2. Its out in the US and other countries. Yes alot of good players got their copy early. Heck some camp game betas and stuff for the same reason. They also will find flaws many of us never will realise without alot of play and experience they have. Dont confuse critique with hate. I love MW1 most for the reasons mentioned but I also enjoyed MW2 and I am sure I will enjoy Black Ops regardless of the issues. The point is that if you're going to state facts in a post, you ought to do so with some back-up, rather than replying on other posters to do the search in order to continue the discussion. It may be minute, but it's effort that you can guarentee 90% of users won't bother. It's just common fucking sense to do it if you want to be taken at all seriously, otherwise you just come across as a trollshark waiting for someone to take the bait. So in essence; fuck off. I'll post more links here but surely the fans know where to look outside of N-E? Where do you guys get COD community info from anyway? Everyone talks about COD on every gaming forum and website! Its hard to miss this stuff. Anyway posting links is not a huge problem for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Stood in ASDA, about 100 people here already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Great writing there your analysis is fantastic. Hmmmm why do I like it? Well for starters it doesn't fall short of it's premise in any account - Zipper created a Massive Action Game with 256 online players. MAG is an incredibly deep online shooter which rewards working together in an 8 man squad. Communication is key and some incredible strategic decisions can be made. If you just go on for a quick blast you'll be bitterly disappointed. MAG is probably the most updated game on the Playstation - Zipper are constantly tweaking the game and listening to their community. The recently released MAG 2.0 update was fantastic. QUOTE]Patch Alert: MAG 2.0 The big day is here! There is so much new content in MAG 2.0 that telling you how important or huge this is for the game, its fans, and for us seems unnecessary. Take one look at the changes listed below and you’ll understand why we’re calling this MAG 2.0 PlayStation Move support, an increased level cap, our revamped skill tree, the new economy system, and our highly-demanded clan deploy feature are just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many fantastic new or improved items in MAG 2.0 it’s almost like a whole new game! A big thanks to all of you who have helped us get to this point with your support, your suggestions, and your mad beta testing skills. We hope you have as much fun playing MAG 2.0 as we did making it. Patch v2.0 Available September 30th, 2010 | 36MB (TPPS), 532MB (DLS) Gameplay (General) Character level cap has been increased from level 60 to level 70 Added new “Supply Depot” menu and in-game economy system (see “Gameplay – Economy” section for details) Implemented new “Clan Deploy” feature that allows Clan Leaders and Officers to deploy into group queues of up to 128 players Characters moving from MAG v1.XX to MAG 2.0 will receive an immediate and automatic Respec the first time they log in Repair Kits can now inflict damage on enemy soldiers, vehicles and objectives XP rate for “Repair” has been increased from 1.5XP/ 10pts to 3XP/ 10pts Players can now track all “sprinting” enemies on the mini-map without the need for equipment All “Damage Bar” rates for “Domination” maps have reverted back to their original (and identical) values Tuned the frequency in which a player can jump to eliminate “bunny hopper” techniques Reduced helicopter settle time, widened turret rotation and significantly increased health to strengthen their use as a forward spawn point The “Silent Step” OIC Leadership ability now works as intended by allowing nearby squadmates to move at both regular and running speeds without detection from the motion sensor – does not stack with any related skills or modifiers Gameplay – (Economy) Added in-game currency known as “Currency Points (CP)” that is awarded for by completing objectives, earning ribbons, finishing missions, and killing enemies All gear and weapons are now located by default or can be sold or purchased in the “Supply Depot” menu Gameplay – Skills (Overall) All Skills cost only one point per unlock, allowing players to purchase new skills with every level increase Removed all gear and weapon attainment from the “Skills” menu, they now reside in the separate “Supply Depot” Added “Engineering, Medical, Resistances, Special Ops,” and ‘Vehicles” meta-categories to the “Skills” menu Removed “Electronics, Explosives, Heavy, Personal Defense,” and “Support” meta-categories from the “Skills” menu Each meta-category in the “Skills” menu now has multi-branching paths The “Advanced Grenades, Improved Resuscitation, Improved Shot Detection, Improved Stealth,” and “Knives Expanded Reach” skills have all been eliminated or rolled into other skills (see Skills sub-sections below for details) Respec Points progression has been changed from 1K, 2K, 3K, 3K-Repeat to 1K, 3K, 5K, 5K-Repeat Respec Points can no longer be “banked” and are capped at the amount needed for the next Respec Gameplay – Skills (Assault) Added the following skills to the “Assault” menu: “Assault Swap Speed” and “Rocket Launcher Reload Speed” Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Assault” skills: “Assault Reload Speed, Assault Rifle Steady Aim, Assault Swap Speed, Grenade Launcher Reload Speed,” and “Rocket Launcher Reload Speed” “Assault Reload Speed” skill has changed and now decreases the reload time for all assault rifles and machine guns “Assault Rifle Improved Stability” skill has been renamed to “Assault Recoil Stability” and has been changed to reduce the recoil on all assault rifles and machine guns “Assault Swap Speed” skill has been changed and now decreases the amount of time it takes to swap assault rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers and grenade launchers Gameplay – Skills (Marksman) Added the following skills to the “Marksman” menu: “Increased Scope Magnification, Marksman Fire Rate, Marksman Recoil Stability” and “Marksman Swap Speed” Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Marksman” skills: “Increased Scope Magnification, Marksman Fire Rate, Marksman Reload Speed, Marksman Recoil Stability, Marksman Steady Aim,” and “Marksman Swap Speed” New “Increased Scope Magnification” skill increases the level of zoom when using a scope on a sniper rifle New “Marksman Fire Rate” skill increases the rate of fire for all sniper rifles New “Marksman Recoil Stability” skill reduces the amount of recoil on sniper rifles New “Marksman Swap Speed” skill decreases the amount of time it takes to swap sniper rifles Gameplay – Skills (Close Quarters) Added the following skills to the “Close Quarters” menu: “Close Quarters Fire Rate, Close Quarters Swap Speed, Improved Knife Damage,” and “Knife Frequency” Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Close Quarters” skills: “Close Quarters Fire Rate, Close Quarters Recoil Stability, Close Quarters Reload Speed, Close Quarters Swap Speed, Improved Knife Damage,” and “Knife Frequency” “Close Quarters Improved Stability” skill has been renamed to “Close Quarters Recoil” stability and has been changed to reduced recoil on all pistols, personal defense weapons, submachine guns and shotguns New “Close Quarters Fire Rate” skill increases the fire rate of all pistols, personal defense weapons, submachine guns and shotguns New “Close Quarters Swap Speed” skill decreases the amount of time it takes to swap all pistols, personal defense weapons, submachine guns and shotguns New “Improved Knife Damage” skill increases the amount of damage knife attacks do to enemy soldiers “Knives Improved Swipe Speed” Skill has been renamed to Knife Frequency” skill, which decreases the time between knife attacks Gameplay – Skills (Special Ops) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Special Ops” menu: “Extended Tracking Duration, Improved Acoustic Locator, Improved Explosive Detector, Improved Motion Tracker, Improved Sensor Jammer” and “Improved Suppressors” New “Extended Tracking Duration” skill increases the amount of time a detected enemy is tracked on the mini-map and CNI New “Improved Acoustic Locator” skill increases the effective range of an equipped Acoustic Locator gear item New “Improved Explosive Detector” skill allows a soldier with an Explosives Detector gear item equipped to approach enemy mines while prone without triggering them New “Improved Motion Tracker” skill increases the range an equipped Motion Tracker gear item detects enemy movement New “Improved Sensor Jammer” skill allows a soldier with Sensor Jammer gear items to move at a faster rate before being spotted by enemy Motion Trackers, as well as masking nearby squadmates New “Improved Suppressors” skill increases the effectiveness of any suppressor when mounted on a weapon Gameplay – Skills (Medical) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Medical” menu: “Heal Recharge Rate, Improved Healing, Improved Resupply Rate, Medical Kit Heal Range, Self Heal Speed,” and “Resuscitation” New “Heal Recharge Rate” skill reduces the time between medical kit and first aid kit applications New “Improved Resupply Rate” skill reduces the time it takes to refill your gear and ammo at supply points New “Medical Kit Heal Range” skill increases the range a medical kit can heal wounded teammates New “Self Heal Speed” skill decreases the time it takes to apply a first aid kit or medical kit when self-healing Gameplay – Skills (Engineering) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Engineering” menu: “Advanced Electronics, Advanced Explosives, Improved Repair Kit Damage, Improved Repairing,” and “Mine Deploy Speed” New “Advanced Electronics” skill decreases the amount of time it takes to take control of battlefield electronics-based objectives New “Improved Repair Kit Damage” skill increases the amount of damage the repair kit does to enemy soldiers, vehicles and objective assets New “Mine Deploy Speed” skill reduces the amount of time it takes to deploy anti-personnel and anti-tank mines Gameplay – Skills (Athleticism) Added the following skills to the “Athleticism” menu: “Increased Launcher Move Speed, Increased Move Speed,” and “Improved Sprint Speed” Added three upgrade tiers to the following “Athleticism” skills: “Advanced Paratrooper, Increased Endurance, Increased Launcher Move Speed, Increased Move Speed, Improved Sprint Recovery,” and “Improved Sprint Speed” New “Increased Launcher Move Speed” skill increases the top speed a soldier moves and aims while holding a rocket launcher New “Increased Move Speed” skill increases the top speed a soldier moves normally New “Improved Sprint Speed” skill increases the top speed a soldier moves while sprinting Gameplay – Skills (Vehicles) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Vehicles” menu: “Improved Smoke Screen Rate, Improved Turret Cooldown, Improved Vehicle Awareness, Improved Vehicle Impact Damage, Increased Vehicle Speed,” and “Vehicle Mine Resistance” New “Improved Smoke Screen Rate” skill reduces the amount of time between smoke screens activated by the driver of the vehicle New “Improved Turret Cooldown” skill reduces the time it takes for the soldier’s turret weapon to cool down after it has overheated New “Improved Vehicle Awareness” skill makes the mini-map visible while a soldier is manning a vehicle or bunker turret and can be upgraded to add base Acoustic Locator and Motion Tracker functionality New “Improved Vehicle Impact Damage” skill increases the amount of damage inflicted on enemy soldiers when impacted by the driver’s vehicle New “Increased Vehicle Speed” skill increases the top speed of the vehicle the soldier is driving New “Vehicle Mine Resistance” skill decreases the amount of damage a vehicle the soldier is driving takes from enemy anti-vehicle mines Gameplay – Skills (Resistances) Added the following skills, all with three-tiered upgrades, to the “Resistances” menu: “Chemical Damage Resistance, Extended Bleedout, Explosive Damage Resistance Flashbang Resistance, Impact Damage Resistance,” and “Increased Health” New “Extended Bleedout” skill increases the time a soldier can remain incapacitated before he bleeds out New “Flashbang Resistance” skill decreases the duration a soldier is affected by flashbang grenades Weapons Increased base damage on most automatic weapons by an average of 15% Improved the spread rate of Assault Rifles and Submachine guns when auto-firing so that they remain accurate longer All suppressors now reduce shooting detection range by half of their old default value Knife tuning: Reduced range by roughly 30 centimeters and decreased default “facing” damage bonuses Knife tuning: Changed knife attack angle so that a hit requires target to be closer to the center of the screen Shotgun tuning: Corrected issue that prevented all shotguns from reloading when the player was still holding the “fire” button Explosive tuning: Anti-personnel Mines now have a “line of sight” check for detonation and have been given a more realistic damage cone Explosive tuning: Increased “Anti-tank Mine” damage to vehicles by 50% Gear and Apparel Explosives Detector no longer beeps when in proximity of a teammate’s mines — only when near an enemy’s; beep frequency has also been adjusted Motion Tracker has been updated so that it is no longer based on an enemy’s speed and is now based on an enemy’s stance, detecting movement for all un-jammed players The Sensor Jammer had been updated so that all prone movement by the equipped player is masked; can be enhanced with “Improved Sensor Jammer” skill to mask crouched movement at level 1, walking at level 2 and sprinting at level 3 Light/ Improved Light Armor base speed has been reduced by nearly 3% Heavy/ Improved Heavy Armor base speed has been increased by nearly 3% Light and Heavy Armor types have been given “bonus” modifiers when used in conjunction with “Speed” skills so that Light Armors receive greater benefits and Heavy Armors receive lesser benefits Interface Added “Community News” page to better inform players in-game of all MAG-related events or promotions Different grenade types now show specific in-game icons when thrown Repaired bug that would sometimes result in the post-game results screen displaying the incorrect amount of earned XP Added “Total Awarded Currency Points” to “Bonuses” section of the character “Stats” page Audio/ Visual Thrown or launched grenades now have a “trail” effect as well as an updated overall appearance to make them more visible on the battlefield Solved issue that prevented equipped grenades to appear in the player’s hand prior to throwing them An assortment of camera and animation optimizations for various scenarios including but not limited to iron sight/ laser sight zoom, ladder climbing, mine placement, self-healing, and weapon swapping Improved presentation of the character “jump” animation Updated various pieces of artwork with newer versions for better performance Fixed issue that sometimes prevented medical device appearance and/ or animations from displaying properly Increased the Sensor Array’s animation time to match the duration of its usage Repaired bug that prevented the “Alarm” audio from being played when charges were planted at “Objective C” in the “Syr Daria Uplink” and “Darrien Network” maps Slightly lowered the amount of camera shake from air strikes, explosions, and when firing weapons Repaired camera “pop” problem that would sometimes occur when sprinting out of a parachute drop Removed “shiny” graphics that would randomly appear on bridges for all maps in which a bridge is present Fixed issue that prevented win/ loss voice-over from being played when game clock expires in “Interdiction” mode Improved visual appearance of the Ribbon awards Technical MAG now fully supports the PlayStation Move peripheral Fixed “Spooning Elevator” bug that allowed players who revived downed teammates while laying on top of them to float upwards and reach areas not intended to be accessed “MVP” criteria no longer considers bonus XP modifiers in its equation Repaired issue that disconnected some members of large-sized clans from the MAG game environment when logging in Fixed issue that would sometimes halt the patching process at 99% of the install period Resupply Depots have been optimized so that the meter accurately reflects what is being resupplied and the resupply process itself is more efficient Players can no longer take the driver’s seat in vehicles that are not their squad’s “spawn” APC, but can take any other seat in the vehicle regardless if their squad “owns” the APC or not Repaired issue with “Happy Hour” timer that would sometimes shave a few minutes off the correct total Solved problem that sometimes caused incapacitated players to rotate and move around Players are now prevented from spawning inside a helicopter that is headed out of the map Mended problem that caused the “Primary Objectives Completed” stat to sometimes double for various game types Made additional fixes for rare “game crash” scenarios Various localization updates and changes The DLC for the game has been fantastic and adds even more bang for your buck. Is there really any point in me praising this game though? you've obviously made up your mind already. I haven't made my mind up, no. I tried it and "liked" it, it just didn't stand out as I'd expected it to. While it indeed is 250+ players, it never feels like you're playing with more than 20 people, which eventually renders the whole 250+ kind of useless. When it comes to straight action, COD is better, when it comes to strategic "squad" action, Team Fortress 2 takes the prize and Bad Company isn't far behind, probably tied with MAG. As I've always played both those regularly, MAG was a disappointment to me (I was quite looking forward to it when it came out). As for all the DLC, I obviously didn't try that so it's absent from my "opinion" of MAG. But if you so solemnly insist on it's greatness, I guess I'll give it another more prolonged try. Seeing as it's so cheap now. Less talk about crappy other games tell more about Black Ops Oxigen:bouncy: It's quite awesome. Everything that annoyed 'bout MW2 is gone, it's more based on skill this time around... The wager matches are a blast, Zombie mode's tweak with new weapons is awesome... It's pretty much everything I wanted it to be, multiplayer-wise. Still haven't touched the single player, lol. The currency system works really well, as you can fit into your style of play right from the start. The barebones playlist is awesome. Dead-Ops is also awesome. It's pretty much a good package. Wether or not it's brilliant remains to be seen, but so far, so great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 Choze; I'm not a DIECORE fan of any game enough to go and join group masturbation sessions. I recognise that, ultimately, these games are just a means to an end -- that is, a way for the producers to get our fucking money. So why should I care that much? Regardless of how much of the internet is covered in your grease, the point is that on this forum there's a certain way we run things. Firstly, don't presume that everyone behaves as you do. Don't assume that everyone knows what you do. This forum is about discussion and debate, not the measuring of various penises or pointing out/overlooking whatever smeg you feel is a tarnish on the penis that you'd otherwise suck. The point is that you added nothing to this thread. Feel free to post things that back you up, and learn to be succinct. I don't understand why people ever argue the way you do - you're not going to convince anyone to change their mind with the way you argue, you're just going to make people think that you're a dick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 8, 2010 A problem for me with the Call of Duty franchise has been replayability. On the older titles i complete the campaign and then i put it down. I'm not really the type for online multiplayer but i enjoy the campaigns enough to play through them every time. While Spec Ops was...okay the zombie mode in World at War kept my attention span for longer and this game from what i'm getting has more modes and secrets to keep me amused for even longer. Now all i can do is wait and hope that Play actually gets this to me tomorrow morning. Goldeneye came on time but they posted this saturday, will be a bit peeved if it's not here tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
