Nintendo Business/Sales Discussion

[jammy2211]

The funny thing is all the people who have been predicting this comeback by SONY! The PS3 actually sold worse this Christmas than it did in 2007! hahaha

 

You're right, that is funny.........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[SHUCKLE MAN]

The funny thing is all the people who have been predicting this comeback by SONY! The PS3 actually sold worse this Christmas than it did in 2007! hahaha

 

Yeah, it's a great feeling. Sadly, I have no one to tell that to, because I don't know anybody who has the console! lol.

[Dante]

Grandparents join kids in the fight for sales between games and music

 

From Guitar Hero to Wii Fit and Grand Theft Auto, Britain has become a nation of gamers - and that means not only teenage sons hogging a console or a keyboard but entire families fighting for the chance to play.

 

Unaffected by piracy and able to maintain premium prices of more than £40 for new releases, the games industry was easily the most successful entertainment business during 2008, with sales of computer games soaring 23 per cent to a record £1.9 billion.

 

According to Mike Rawlinson, the managing director of ELSPA, the computer games trade body: “What we have seen is the market broaden. There is a new category of family games - Mums, Dads and children playing on a Wii - or older people playing games like Brain Training, which they may not consider a game but which is interactive entertainment.”

 

Moreover, the gap between computer games sales and music sales has never been wider. Music sales are expected to have fallen by up to 10 per cent to about £1.33 billion last year. DVD sales also slipped, hurt by supermarket discounts. Sales were down 0.4 per cent to £2.4 billion last year, in spite of the record success of Mamma Mia!.

 

 

Wii games on the motion-sensing Nintendo console notched up £481 million worth of sales at the tills, up by 112 per cent, overtaking Microsoft's Xbox 360. Sales of 360 games totalled £443 million, up 38 per cent, while games for Sony's PlayStation 3 reached £334 million.

 

The demand for games is so great that the overall entertainment market will be ahead in 2008 - at about £5.63 billion, versus £5.39 billion last year - despite the economic downturn, the collapse of Woolworths and the descent of Zavvi into administration. Their problems are estimated to have reduced demand for DVDs at Christmas by about 3 per cent.

 

Kim Bayley, director-general of the Entertainment Retailers' Association (ERA), said that Woolworths' demise reflected its own difficulties, not wider industry problems. “Woolworths was caught between trying to compete with supermarkets on one hand and specialist retailers on the other. Zavvi's problem was that it was caught in the Woolworths collapse, because it was supplied by a Woolworths distributor,” Ms Bayley said.

 

The ERA believes that the overall entertainment market will grow again in 2009. “I don't see any reason why consumer demand will alter, although growth may flatten out. Entertainment has always done well in downturns,” she said.

 

Album sales volumes increased slightly in the fourth quarter, in spite of the recession and Woolworths' troubles. The number of albums sold in the period was 49.8 million, ahead by 0.9 per cent, helped by Take That's The Circus. However, price pressures mean that the value of sales is expected to be lower. Asda sold the Take That album at £7, below the wholesale price charged by Universal Music, the record company.

 

Lavinia Carey, director-general of the British Video Association, said that the DVD market could return to growth in 2009, as consumers switch to Blu-ray high-definition DVDs, which cost a few pounds more. Blu-ray DVD sales were up 316 per cent at £65.7 million, with 3.75 million discs sold.

 

“We think that this year 17 million Blu-ray discs could be sold,” she said.

 

That's entertainment

 

Computer Games

 

Games software

Total games sales £1.9 billion (+23%)

Wii £481 million (+112%)

XBox 360 £443 million (+38%)

PlayStation 3 £334 million (+115%)

Nintendo DS £481 million (+17%)

 

Games Hardware

 

Consoles £1.42 billion (+14%)

Peripherals £549 million (+82%)

[Zechs Merquise]

Yeah, it's a great feeling. Sadly, I have no one to tell that to, because I don't know anybody who has the console! lol.

 

I think there's a few over on gamefaqs.com - those boards are CRAZY with trolling and flaming! I just sit back and enjoy watching, but am not a member.

[D_prOdigy]

those boards are CRAZY with trolling and flaming!

 

Hehe. Yeah. IMAGINE...

 

 

:'(

[Hero-of-Time]

Nintendo sales stronger than ever in Europe.

 

15th January 2009. Continued strong demand for Wii and Nintendo DS in 2008 has resulted in record sales for both consoles in Europe.

 

Sales of Wii continued on their upward trajectory – with over 8.3 million units sold in 2008 alone, a 58% increase on 2007 and the largest annual sales of home consoles in European gaming history. These sales take the total installed base of Wii in Europe to more than 14.2 million.

 

In its third year on the market, Nintendo DS continues to break all previous sales records. In 2008 over 11.2 million Nintendo DS consoles were sold – which is the largest ever annual sales of a gaming console in European history. This takes the total number of Nintendo DS consoles now sold to European consumers to over 31 million.

 

“The sales trend on both Wii and Nintendo DS, hardware and software during 2008 shows that more and more people in Europe are enjoying video games as part of their daily lives. This proves that Nintendo’s wish to expand the gaming population has strong potential in Europe,†said Laurent Fischer, Managing Director, Marketing & PR, Nintendo of Europe.

 

[Dante]

Wii:

14.2m in EU

15.54m in USA (through Nov)

7.6m in JP

37.34m total

 

DS world sales 89 million

 

 

US Dec sales are coming soon.

[Dante]

Hardware Sales

• DS 3.04M
  
• Wii 2.15M
  
• X360 1.44M
  
• PSP 1.02M
  
• PS3 726K
  
• PS2 410K
  

 

 

Software Sales

1. Wii Play w/ remote - Wii – Nintendo – 1.46 million

2. Call of Duty: World at War - Xbox 360 – Activision – 1.33 million*

3. Wii Fit w/ balance board – Wii – Nintendo – 999K

4. Mario Kart Wii w/ wheel – Wii – Nintendo – 979K

5. Guitar Hero: World Tour - Wii – Activision – 850K*

6. Gears of War 2 - Xbox 360 – Microsoft – 745K*

7. Left 4 Dead - Xbox 360 – Electronic Arts – 629K

8. Mario Kart - DS – Nintendo – 540K

9. Call of Duty: World at War - PS3 – Activision – 533K

10. Animal Crossing: City Folk - Wii – Nintendo – 497K*

 

* Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, and Bundled Editions

 

 

GameDaily BIZ has received the NPD video game sales data for December and the 2008 calendar year. As most were expecting, 2008 was indeed another record shattering year for the U.S. video game industry. Total sales in December were up nine percent to $5.29 billion, which drove full-year sales to $21.33 billion (up 19 percent from 2007).

 

Video game hardware was up just two percent in December, totaling $1.88 billion, bringing total 2008 hardware sales to $7.81 billion (up 11 percent). Software sales drove December, climbing 15 percent to $2.75 billion, ultimately bringing total software sales for the year to $10.96 billion (a sizable 26 percent jump from '07). Accessories also grew eight percent in December to $662 million, finishing up 14 percent for the year at $2.57 billion.

 

There can be no doubt that Nintendo was the driving force in 2008, both from a hardware and software perspective. In December, the Wii sold 2.15 million additional units and the DS sold a whopping 3.04 million units. Microsoft's Xbox 360 had a respectable showing with 1.44 million sold. Sony's PSP also fared decently with 1.02 million units sold. Finally, the PS3 trailed with just 726K units sold and the PS2 was at the bottom with 410K.

 

Nintendo's Wii Play was the top selling game of December and all of 2008. This comes as little surprise considering that it's been in the top 10 every month and provides new Wii owners with an additional Wii Remote. For the full year, Wii games occupied the top four slots. The only game that even came close to Nintendo's sales level was GTA IV, which finished 2008 with 3.29 million sold on Xbox 360 and 1.89 million on PS3.

 

Below you will find the top selling games of 2008, both ranked by units.

 

Top 10 Games of Calendar Year 2008

 

1. Wii Play w/ remote - Wii – Nintendo – 5.28 million

2. Mario Kart Wii w/ wheel – Wii – Nintendo – 5.00 million

3. Wii Fit w/ balance board – Wii – Nintendo – 4.53 million

4. Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Wii – Nintendo – 4.17 million

5. Grand Theft Auto IV - Xbox 360 – Take-Two – 3.29 million*

6. Call of Duty: World at War - Xbox 360 – Activision – 2.75 million*

7. Gears of War 2 - Xbox 360 – Microsoft – 2.31 million*

8. Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 – Take-Two – 1.89 million*

9. Madden NFL '09 - Xbox 360 – Electronic Arts – 1.87 million*

10. Mario Kart - DS – Nintendo – 1.65 million

 

* Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, and Bundled Editions

 

NPD industry analyst Anita Frazie

 

BIZ: What are your thoughts on this record breaking year? What stood out to you?

 

Frazier: I think the fourth quarter is the most interesting to me. As the economy melted down, people kept buying games. Yes, the growth in the fourth quarter might not have been as big as earlier in the year, but the industry still performed very strongly.

 

BIZ: Looking at the December holiday sales performance, what do you think the industry did right that it can perhaps apply to other non-holiday months as 2009 ramps up?

 

Frazier: One of the things I really liked about this year had nothing to do with the holidays. Some of the games you see on the top 10 list were introduced to market much earlier in the year and I think that is something that can help fuel the industry. Get some high profile releases out in the first and second quarters.

 

BIZ: I realize you can't make predictions, but how do you feel the industry will do in '09 coming off this stellar performance?

 

Frazier: I think the industry is poised for continued growth, albeit at a more modest pace than what we saw the last two years. The install base when you combine all current platform systems is at an all-time high, so presumably those folks will want some new content to play on their systems. The challenge for the industry is to capitalize on this and keep pushing the creativity and innovation on the content side. Of course, if there are price reductions on hardware, that will go a long way toward fueling the entire system as well.

 

BIZ: The top four games in '08 were all for Wii, and they were all from Nintendo. Do you think this underscores the difficulties third parties may have on Wii?

 

Frazier: Given how successful the Wii platform has been, for the broader industry to be able to continue to grow, it's a key platform for the third-party publishers to figure out how to be successful on it. Guitar Hero and Rock Band have been notable third-party successes on the Wii platform and there are others. I think we'll see more third party games succeed at retail for this platform.

 

BIZ: Speaking of music games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band, where did those games finish in 2008? They were not in the top 10 for the year... is this a sign of slowdown for the music game genre?

 

Frazier: Keep in mind the top 10 list is at the platform level - at the title level (combining all SKUs and platforms) they did very well. In fact, the two properties had their best month ever in terms of sales so I don't think there is a slowdown at all.

[Shino]

I was looking for this thread! Go my Wii, power on!

 

And how awesome is it to see that Brawl managed to beat GTA4?

 

Time for Dedede dance!

[killer kirby]

Holy shit....Mario Kart power, the DS version is still in the top 10.

 

Shino wins this thread for the fact that he put King Dedede's main theme on this thread

[dazzybee]

I remember a thread debating whether games like Smash and Mario Kart could beat our GTA4 with most people saying no chance and some people saying over the course of the consoles lifespan yeah. But it's happening quicker than that!! Insane sales!

[Zechs Merquise]

I remember a thread debating whether games like Smash and Mario Kart could beat our GTA4 with most people saying no chance and some people saying over the course of the consoles lifespan yeah. But it's happening quicker than that!! Insane sales!

 

Yeah, I never thought Mario Kart would own so many other titles - it's even smashed Halo 3!

[Goron_3]

You have to remember the amount of parents/females buying Wii's though when you looked at MK sales figures. Yes they are amazing but I bet you for a large number of Wii owners, Mario Kart will be the only game they buy apart from possibly Wii fit. But yeah, insane sales.

 

Great sales from 360 too and it's nice to see GH on Wii up there. How the PSP sold that much though is beyond me.

[Zechs Merquise]

You have to remember the amount of parents/females buying Wii's though when you looked at MK sales figures. Yes they are amazing but I bet you for a large number of Wii owners, Mario Kart will be the only game they buy apart from possibly Wii fit. But yeah, insane sales.

 

Great sales from 360 too and it's nice to see GH on Wii up there. How the PSP sold that much though is beyond me.

 

Well, yeah, but the Wii has the top selling 4 titles - so it's not like it's up there on it's own!

[Goron_3]

Well, yeah, but the Wii has the top selling 4 titles - so it's not like it's up there on it's own!

 

Actually I think GTA IV has outsold MK (combining sales obv). And are you counting wii play in that list?

 

Interesting fact. The amount of money software generated in December 08 ALONE is more than the money it generated in 1998 throughout the WHOLE year. Mental.

[mcj metroid]

Yeah, I never thought Mario Kart would own so many other titles - it's even smashed Halo 3!

 

not sure sure if it smashed gta4 but when you consider that it's on 2 different consoles.

 

I believe at the time I said Over the course of the lifespan it would eventually outsell these games..

 

and I think the argument was between halo 3 and smash bros brawl.. most people thought we were mad... silly ha

[jammy2211]

It was Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy.

 

And er, it's hard to tell who'll win out. Probs SMG as the new Halo thingy will kill Halo 3 sales.

[Goron_3]

It was Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy.

 

And er, it's hard to tell who'll win out. Probs SMG as the new Halo thingy will kill Halo 3 sales.

 

What will kill Halo 3 sales?

[jammy2211]

What will kill Halo 3 sales?

 

Halo ODST.

[Cube]

Halo ODST.

 

Halo OSTD is just an expansion pack, so it won't have much impact.

[jammy2211]

Halo OSTD is just an expansion pack, so it won't have much impact.

 

It's a full retail release, no one's going to buy Halo 3 (first hand) once the 'expansion pack' is out.

[ShadowV7]

Actually I think GTA IV has outsold MK (combining sales obv). And are you counting wii play in that list?

 

Interesting fact. The amount of money software generated in December 08 ALONE is more than the money it generated in 1998 throughout the WHOLE year. Mental.

 

Actually I think MK Wii has outsold the combined sales of GTAIV*. If VGCharts is to go buy, GTAIV will have a total of about 12mil against MK's 14 mil in all time sales.

 

 

*Doesn't include PC sales but I don't think that it will have over 2 mil.

[Dante]

people not talking about the sales.

[Jamba]

people not talking about the sales.

 

It's ok man.... You post quite a lot of info and it is only sales figures. It kinda gets tiring going "Yay! Nintendo aren't at the bottom of the pile anymore!"

[Shino]

It's ok man.... You post quite a lot of info and it is only sales figures. It kinda gets tiring going "Yay! Nintendo aren't at the bottom of the pile anymore!"

 

No it doesn't.