Nintendo Business/Sales Discussion

[dazzybee]

But what if you want it wireless? Thats another £50, and the arcade doesn't really give the the disk space for much more than game saves!

 

PS3 is WAY better value for money than the PS3!! Taking evertything into account. If you don't want all that, fair enough; but for what you get, I don't think you can complain!

[Dante]

Pachter says HDTV sales are the main cause of PS3 sales.

 

Slow sales of high-definition television hardware in the US is holding back sales of Sony's PlayStation 3, as consumers feel the effects of the economic slowdown.

 

That's according to analyst Michael Pachter, who also said that consumers had been opting for cheaper Xbox 360 console deals, rather than the more expensive PlayStation 3 offerings.

 

"There was likely some substitution of Xbox 360 for PS3 purchases, due to recent price reductions for the Xbox 360 and the bundling of the console with two free games," said the Wedbush Morgan specialist.

 

"In addition, we believe that PS3 sales are being impacted by lower demand for HD televisions as a result of the recession."

 

Sales of the PlayStation 3 during November were 6.1 million units, compared to 12.4 million Xbox 360 consoles.

 

However, Pachter believes that during the first half of 2009, sales for Sony will begin to look up as consumers show interest in exclusive titles and Blu-ray capabilities.

 

"We believe that several PS3 exclusives, notably LittleBigPlanet, along with focus on the Blu-ray will drive hardware sales over the next six months," he said.

 

He also added that he expects December sales for the entire hardware market in the US to show further improvement over last year.

 

"We do not expect the recession to impact videogames in December; rather, we think that as Nintendo increases Wii supply further, Sony markets Blu-ray, and Microsoft rolls out its New Xbox Experience, hardware sales will show year-over-year increases in December."

 

Gamasutra November 2008 NPD Article

 

[Emasher]

I think with the "PS3 being a good value" thing, you really also need to consider the recession. If you consider the price of the 360 compared to the PS3, and you also consider that a lot of the best games are on both consoles, a lot of people would rather pay less and get a 360. The main point behind the PS3 originally to boost Blu-Ray sales. Not the other way around. The average consumer doesn't care about all the bells and whistles on the PS3.

[Choze]

LBP outsold Gears of War 2 and COD5 on PS3 the past week in the UK. Will it take PS3 no.1 for christmas?

 

The console is the only one of the three home consoles to have performed less well this November than it did last November - it's sinking ship.

 

Wii is the wii(amazing) but 360's increase of 7% yoy is not healthy given there was price cut( second as well) since last year. Not only that but its cheaper than the Wii, DS and PSP(+PS2 with bundles). What does that really say?

 

the "It's a blu ray player!" reason is now a moot point with stand alone players getting much cheaper.

 

You get far more out of the PS3 for video(and pictures, music than a 'standalone' Blu Ray player. If anything it makes PS3 look good and hopefully people learn more about the multimedia aspects and Blu Ray. The PS3 is stillt he Blu Ray standard bearer and does much more than just Blu Ray or Internet browsing/downloading, streaming from cameras, phones etc. all in a polished package.

 

Especially as people consume media in more and more different ways.

 

 

 

 

The average consumer doesn't care about all the bells and whistles on the PS3.

 

Why should everyone just be 'average'?

 

The average consumer doesnt even care about games and Wii is most accessible to those. The average 360 owner does not have a HDTV or play online.

 

PS3 is different, bold and even insane in some ways. So some of us will ofcourse cherish that(much like car enthusiasts cherish loss making Bugatti Veyron). Some bad sales are hardly going to take away what PS3 has given this generation already. If Sony can make this profitable then I hope they can somewhat continue the idea of PS3 next time rather than copying the Wii.

 

LBP outsold Gears of War 2 and COD5 on PS3 the past week in the UK. Will it take PS3 no.1 for christmas?

 

The console is the only one of the three home consoles to have performed less well this November than it did last November - it's sinking ship.

 

Wii is the wii(amazing) but 360's increase of 7% yoy is not healthy given there was price cut( second as well) since last year. Not only that but its cheaper than the Wii, DS and PSP. What does that really say?

 

the "It's a blu ray player!" reason is now a moot point with stand alone players getting much cheaper.

 

You get far more out of the PS3 for video(and pictures, music than a 'standalone' Blu Ray player. If anything it makes PS3 look good and hopefully people learn more about the multimedia aspects and Blu Ray. The PS3 is stillt he Blu Ray standard bearer and does much more than just Blu Ray or Internet browsing/downloading, streaming from cameras, phones etc. all in a polished package.

 

Especially as people consume media in more and more different ways.

 

 

 

 

The average consumer doesn't care about all the bells and whistles on the PS3.

 

Why should everyone just be 'average'?

 

The average consumer doesnt even care about games and Wii is most accessible to those. The average 360 owner does not have a HDTV or play online. Most of us here are hardly average.

 

PS3 is different, bold and even insane in some ways. So some of us will ofcourse cherish that(much like car enthusiasts cherish loss making Bugatti Veyron). Some bad sales are hardly going to take away what PS3 has given this generation already. If Sony can make this profitable then I hope they can somewhat continue the idea of PS3 next time rather than copying the Wii.

[Dante]

So the US nov sales have been moved into this topic!

 

[Hellfire]

I'm so glad Choze is picking up steam again. Thank you I thought PS3 was just a Blu Raay player now I am wiser and know PS3 is bold... and insane!

[Zechs Merquise]

Choze is a bit like the orchestra on the Titanic; playing a nice tune - but, at the end of the day, going down with the ship!

 

LBP may have outsold Gears 2 for a week or something pathetic, in one territory - lets look at the actual overall sales: LBP: 1.1m, Gears 2: 3.2m. So you're looking at Gears 2 outselling LBP nearly 3 to 1!

 

You can say the 360 has only had a 7% increase in sales, but it's an increase - where as PS3 sales have decreased. Price drop or no price drop, MS still sold more consoles than they did last year showing their system has gained momentum this year, unlike the PS3 which has lost momentum despite all these 'killer titles' we keep hearing about.

 

Wow, the PS3 does all these things with pictures, and cameras and music - why? My PC does all that too, and with a mouse and a monitor and not through my TV!

 

Well, all I can say is, you go and be 'special', with your 'special' PS3, that is bold and fun and wonderful. So bold and wonderful that SCE have made a 1.25 billion dollar loss and cut shed loads of staff. A loss like that = EPIC fail!

[D_prOdigy]

This is descending into poitless arguments and cheap shots. I think some calm-down time is needed.

[jammy2211]

I am honestly still in shock Gears of War 2 outsold LittlebigPlanet.

 

Who would have thought it huh? Shocked....

[Hellfire]

…with Nintendo as top dog, I think it’s time for publishers to throw it a much bigger bone by leading development on Wii, then up-porting the games to the more powerful systems, which should result in a larger addressable audience. - N’Gai Croal

I certainly didn't expect Croal to say this oO

http://www.slate.com/id/2206243/entry/2206594/

[Dante]

Japan's All Time Top 50!

[D_prOdigy]

Well hello there, Nintendo.

[mcj metroid]

I absolutely love how most people on the internet make it an undeniable fact that Wii has very little good games. It's really fun, I love the "Wii with dust meme" too.

Not getting in this, just one thing jammy, PS3 selling good for the price point, means nothing at all, they're in the red, they need to do something about it. Maybe, and I really mean maybe, cutting the price would increase the sales so much they would make more money or at least lose less, specially since the "It's a blu ray player!" reason is now a moot point with stand alone players getting much cheaper. Sony can't use it's "selling OK for the price" as an excuse for anything. But like I said when PS3 was announced, Sony backed themselves into a wall with PS3, so asides from occasional spikes there's not much they can do.

i'd say very little excellent or killer app games. You could list the games people will remember or classics..but the situation on ps3 is technically worse but helped by the fact it shares a lot of 360 games..That's why it appears better.

 

on ps3.. i'd say they shot themselves in the foot by not lowering the price(right?).. I also can't see many games helping the sales bar little big planet.. Ps3 IS NEVER making a comeback in my opinion it's mistake after mistake.

[Ganepark32]

And out of that list of 50 games, there are 30 by Nintendo alone. It's insane.

[Hellfire]

i'd say very little excellent or killer app games. You could list the games people will remember or classics..but the situation on ps3 is technically worse but helped by the fact it shares a lot of 360 games..That's why it appears better.

 

on ps3.. i'd say they shot themselves in the foot by not lowering the price(right?).. I also can't see many games helping the sales bar little big planet.. Ps3 IS NEVER making a comeback in my opinion it's mistake after mistake.

Most games that are considered excellent or killer apps on other consoles I don't find that excellent. Hardly any classics for me that's for sure. Most of them are more of the same and overrated.

 

I hate this mentality that games need to be "AAA" and have high review scores to be worth it. It's up to taste if a console has more good games or not, but then we always have people going "lol you listed stupid games because x has waggle, y is casual, z sucks, b has better online on 360, c has bad graphics and I prefer w, therefore those games are objectively bad". I don't care if a game has an average of 9+ reviews, high production values or is a big brand, if I enjoy it it's already good, if I really really enjoy it, it's excellent.

 

Why should I care (or even know for that matter) what games will be remembered? A lot of games are remembered because they're hugely marketed and are basically a big brand.

[Hero-of-Time]

LMBO. FFVIII outsold FFVII, just as it should be! Its nice to see R Evil 2 in there aswell. Wait, whats with the lack of Zelda love?

 

*shakes angry fist at Japanese gamers*

[Dante]

LMBO. FFVIII outsold FFVII, just as it should be! Its nice to see R Evil 2 in there aswell. Wait, whats with the lack of Zelda love?

 

*shakes angry fist at Japanese gamers*

 

68 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Nintendo 1.147.068

 

Japan 100 All Time Games

 

DS = Nintendo DS (24 titles in the chart)

GB = Nintendo Gameboy (8 titles in the chart)

GBA = Nintendo Gameboy Advance (4 titles in the chart)

GC = Nintendo Gamecube (1 title in the chart)

N64 = Nintendo 64 (5 titles in the chart)

PS1 = Sony Playstation (18 titles in the chart)

PS2 = Sony Playstation 2 (17 titles in the chart)

PSP = Sony Playstation Portable (2 titles in the chart)

SS = Sega Saturn (1 title in the chart)

SFC = Nintendo Super Famicom (5 titles in the chart)

Wii = Nintendo Wii (6 titles in the chart)

 

Japans

 

Second Year:

GCN 2002: 1.184.348

PS3 2007: 1.184.118

 

Third Year:

GCN 2003: 1.025.827

PS3 2008: 934.775 (currently) 1.025.000?

[Dante]

Hope fades for PS3 as a comeback player

 

 

For most of this year, Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 videogame console seemed finally to be taking off after a slow start. The PS3, trailing Nintendo Co.'s Wii and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 consoles, was closing in on the No. 2 Xbox 360, with new games and quarterly sales growth at twice the speed of last year.

 

But early results from this holiday season aren't promising. U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19% last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8% for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD. Analysts say they expect PS3 sales for this month to be flat or lower than last year, while sales for its rivals are likely to rise. And Sony may not reach its goal of selling 10 million PS3 consoles in the fiscal year through March, analysts say.

 

The sales decline is a heavy blow to Sony, which was banking on the videogame division to provide a bright spot as its core electronics business is hit by the global economic downturn. Sony in May forecast that its games division would turn a profit this fiscal year after two years of losses since launching the PS3 in 2006. Meanwhile, poor sales of television sets and digital cameras are forcing the company to lay off thousands of staff and close factories.

 

Sony's strategy of selling a pricey game machine with advanced features and cutting-edge components appears to be backfiring as a deepening recession has U.S. consumers more price sensitive than ever.

 

If Sony doesn't close the gap with its rivals, it could risk making the PS3 an afterthought to game publishers, who focus most of their resources on the machines with the most users. At the end of September, the Wii had a wide lead with nearly 35 million units sold since its launch in 2006 compared with about 22 million Xbox 360 consoles and 17 million PS3 machines. Nintendo last month sold 2 million Wii machines in the U.S., while Microsoft sold 836,000 Xbox 360s and Sony sold 378,000 PS3s, according to NPD.

 

Sony said earlier this month that it was happy with the "strong momentum" of the PS3 and focused on the machine's 60% rise in the year-to-date sales. A spokesman at Sony's game division declined to comment further, saying it is working hard to close the quarter strong.

 

A key factor behind the decline in sales may be the PS3's high price. At $399, the entry-level PS3 model costs at least $150 more than the Wii or the least expensive Xbox 360. Sony emphasizes that the PS3 comes with a Blu-ray high-definition video player and an 80-gigabyte hard drive, features not available with the Wii or Xbox 360.

 

Microsoft cut Xbox 360 prices in early September and started bundling games with the most basic console for $199. Nintendo has maintained the Wii's initial $249 price, but sales are rising now that it has overcome an early supply shortage.

 

Part of Sony's strategy hinged on selling the PS3 as a relatively inexpensive Blu-ray player. But prices of Blu-ray players have fallen so sharply recently -- new players are available for less than $200 -- that it's possible to buy a Blu-ray player and an Xbox 360 for less than a PS3. Meanwhile, the economic downturn has cooled sales of flat-screen TV sets and Blu-ray players this holiday season.

 

Industry watchers say they were surprised Sony didn't cut PS3 prices to boost sales before the holidays. One reason may be Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer's commitment to making the games division profitable after heavy investment in the PS3 machine. Console makers hope to eventually recoup development investment with game sales and production cost reductions. Sony is still losing money on every PS3 it sells at $399, so a price cut could push the games division back into the red, analysts say.

 

"With Stringer saying, 'We will be profitable,' you can't cut price," says Michael Pachter, a research analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles. He expects Sony to cut prices at the start of its new fiscal year in April, which could help boost sales.

 

Sony also is suffering from a lack of attractive titles that are exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft has hit the jackpot with two action-adventure game franchises, Halo and Gears of War, which are available only on the Xbox 360. Most of Nintendo's top games are made in house and playable only on the Wii.

 

Sony used to have a stable of exclusive games. But in recent years, Microsoft has persuaded most game publishers to release highly anticipated games to it and Sony at the same time.

 

Last month, four of the five best-selling U.S. games were exclusive to either the Wii or Xbox 360, according to NPD. Sony's best-selling game during the month was an action shooter game, Call of Duty: World at War from Activision Blizzard Inc. But twice as many people bought the Xbox 360 version.

 

WJS

[Zechs Merquise]

Hope fades for PS3 as a comeback player

 

 

For most of this year, Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 videogame console seemed finally to be taking off after a slow start. The PS3, trailing Nintendo Co.'s Wii and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 consoles, was closing in on the No. 2 Xbox 360, with new games and quarterly sales growth at twice the speed of last year.

 

But early results from this holiday season aren't promising. U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19% last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8% for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD. Analysts say they expect PS3 sales for this month to be flat or lower than last year, while sales for its rivals are likely to rise. And Sony may not reach its goal of selling 10 million PS3 consoles in the fiscal year through March, analysts say.

 

The sales decline is a heavy blow to Sony, which was banking on the videogame division to provide a bright spot as its core electronics business is hit by the global economic downturn. Sony in May forecast that its games division would turn a profit this fiscal year after two years of losses since launching the PS3 in 2006. Meanwhile, poor sales of television sets and digital cameras are forcing the company to lay off thousands of staff and close factories.

 

Sony's strategy of selling a pricey game machine with advanced features and cutting-edge components appears to be backfiring as a deepening recession has U.S. consumers more price sensitive than ever.

 

If Sony doesn't close the gap with its rivals, it could risk making the PS3 an afterthought to game publishers, who focus most of their resources on the machines with the most users. At the end of September, the Wii had a wide lead with nearly 35 million units sold since its launch in 2006 compared with about 22 million Xbox 360 consoles and 17 million PS3 machines. Nintendo last month sold 2 million Wii machines in the U.S., while Microsoft sold 836,000 Xbox 360s and Sony sold 378,000 PS3s, according to NPD.

 

Sony said earlier this month that it was happy with the "strong momentum" of the PS3 and focused on the machine's 60% rise in the year-to-date sales. A spokesman at Sony's game division declined to comment further, saying it is working hard to close the quarter strong.

 

A key factor behind the decline in sales may be the PS3's high price. At $399, the entry-level PS3 model costs at least $150 more than the Wii or the least expensive Xbox 360. Sony emphasizes that the PS3 comes with a Blu-ray high-definition video player and an 80-gigabyte hard drive, features not available with the Wii or Xbox 360.

 

Microsoft cut Xbox 360 prices in early September and started bundling games with the most basic console for $199. Nintendo has maintained the Wii's initial $249 price, but sales are rising now that it has overcome an early supply shortage.

 

Part of Sony's strategy hinged on selling the PS3 as a relatively inexpensive Blu-ray player. But prices of Blu-ray players have fallen so sharply recently -- new players are available for less than $200 -- that it's possible to buy a Blu-ray player and an Xbox 360 for less than a PS3. Meanwhile, the economic downturn has cooled sales of flat-screen TV sets and Blu-ray players this holiday season.

 

Industry watchers say they were surprised Sony didn't cut PS3 prices to boost sales before the holidays. One reason may be Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer's commitment to making the games division profitable after heavy investment in the PS3 machine. Console makers hope to eventually recoup development investment with game sales and production cost reductions. Sony is still losing money on every PS3 it sells at $399, so a price cut could push the games division back into the red, analysts say.

 

"With Stringer saying, 'We will be profitable,' you can't cut price," says Michael Pachter, a research analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles. He expects Sony to cut prices at the start of its new fiscal year in April, which could help boost sales.

 

Sony also is suffering from a lack of attractive titles that are exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft has hit the jackpot with two action-adventure game franchises, Halo and Gears of War, which are available only on the Xbox 360. Most of Nintendo's top games are made in house and playable only on the Wii.

 

Sony used to have a stable of exclusive games. But in recent years, Microsoft has persuaded most game publishers to release highly anticipated games to it and Sony at the same time.

 

Last month, four of the five best-selling U.S. games were exclusive to either the Wii or Xbox 360, according to NPD. Sony's best-selling game during the month was an action shooter game, Call of Duty: World at War from Activision Blizzard Inc. But twice as many people bought the Xbox 360 version.

 

WJS

 

Now that is what I call good news!

[Dante]

Japan Wii Statistics:

Games: 185

Units: 24.970.895

Average: 134.978

 

WII - Wii Sports 3.255.000

WII - Wii Fit 2.887.000

WII - Wii Play 2.540.000

WII - Mario Kart Wii 1.930.000

WII - Super Smash Bros. Brawl 1.721.821

WII - Mario Party 8 1.279.731

WII - Super Mario Galaxy 932.119

WII - Animal Crossing: City Folk 728.000

WII - Wario Ware: Smooth Moves 605.479

WII - Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 590.265

WII - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 554.109

WII - Super Paper Mario 506.298

WII - Dragon Quest Swords 489.112

WII - Pokemon Battle Revolution 352.132

WII - Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree 312.353

WII - Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 273.391

WII - Wii Music 271.000

WII - Deca Sporta: Wii de Sports 10 Shumoku! 234.980

WII - Mario Strikers Charged 225.556

WII - Link´s Crossbow Training 224.396

WII - Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World 212.049

WII - Taiko no Tatsujin Wii 200.000

WII - Super Mario Stadium Baseball 182.555

WII - Fire Emblem 10: Goddes of Dawn 171.924

WII - Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 165.969

WII - Resident Evil 4 - Wii Edition 136.344

WII - Family Ski 123.069

WII - Family Trainer 122.187

WII - Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball Wii 112.297

WII - One Piece: Unlimited Adventure 110.802

WII - Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX 109.971

WII - Winning Eleven 2008 109.895

WII - Ennichi no Tatsujin 109.877

WII - Fishing Master 95.473

WII - One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 1 - Nami ni Yureru Hihou 95.230

WII - Wario Land Shake 91.743

WII - Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 90.255

WII - Mobile Suit Gundam MS Front 0079 89.435

WII - Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon 84.735

WII - Fushigi no Dungeon - Furai no Shiren 3 84.224

WII - Excite Truck 81.189

WII - Donkey Kong Barrel Blast 79.201

WII - Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 72.949

WII - Bleach: Shattered Blade 72.909

WII - Elebits 70.738

WII - Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace 69.879

WII - General Knowledge Training TV 69.625

WII - Tamagotchi Party On! 65.658

WII - Crayon Shin-Chan 65.188

WII - Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse 63.489

WII - Karaoke Joysound Wii 63.000

WII - Super Swing Golf 61.163

WII - Ghost Squad 59.455

WII - Naruto: Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen! EX 2 58.372

WII - Battalion Wars 2 57.416

WII - Hajime no Ippo Revolution 54.318

WII - Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (Wii de Asobu) 52.000

WII - Endless Ocean 47.227

WII - Resident Evil 0 46.585

WII - SD Gundam: Scad Hammers 45.439

WII - Red Steel 45.411

WII - Momotarou Dentetsu 16 44.330

WII - Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 15 44.294

WII - 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de 44.000

WII - Bomberman Land 42.256

WII - MySims 40.924

WII - Cooking Mama: Cook Off 39.213

WII - Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz 38.600

WII - Kekkaishi: Kokubourou no Kage 35.256

WII - Samurai Warriors Katana 34.981

WII - Jikkyou Powerful Major League 3 34.946

WII - Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure 30.982

WII - Sonic and the Secret Rings 30.563

WII - No More Heroes 27.873

WII - Family Ski: World Ski & Snowboard 27.727

WII - Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes 27.000

WII - NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams 26.897

WII - Eyeshield 21: Field Saikyou no Senshitachi 26.013

WII - Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2 25.416

WII - G-1 Jockey Wii 25.071

WII - Puyo Puyo! 15th Anniversary 24.839

WII - Disaster: Day of Crisis 24.374

WII - Trauma Center: Second Opinion 23.409

WII - Shape Boxing: Wii de Enjoy! Diet 22.020

WII - Kororinpa: Marble Mania 21.747

WII - We Love Golf! 21.679

WII - Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes (Double Pack) 21.296

WII - GT Pro Series 20.913

WII - Haneru no Tobira Wii: Girigirissu 20.772

WII - Tenchu 4 18.673

WII - Rune Factory Frontier 18.240

WII - Naruto Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX3 15.719

WII - Need for Speed: Carbon 15.701

WII - Bleach: Versus Crusade 15.000

WII - The House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return 14.455

WII - Rayman Raving Rabbids 14.095

WII - Daikaijuu Battle: Ultra Coliseum 13.203

WII - Escape from Bug Island 11.928

WII - Bokujou Monogatari: Waku Waku Animal March 10.137

WII - Densha de Go! Shinkansen EX 8.725

WII - Pro Baseball Family Stadium 8.300

WII - Soul Eater: Monotone Princess 8.200

WII - Wing Island 8.051

WII - Mahjong Taikai Wii 7.685

WII - Mesaze! Tsuri Master: Sekai ni Challenge! Hen 7.289

WII - Soul Calibur Legends 6.900

WII - Gintama: Banji Oku Chuubu 6.900

WII - Katekyo Hitman Reborn! 6.900

WII - MLB Power Pros 6.784

WII - The Game of Life Wii 6.600

WII - Zenkoku Dekotora Matsuri 6.564

WII - Super Swing Golf Pangya 2nd Shot! 6.500

WII - Captain Rainbow 6.361

WII - Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces 6.000

WII - Monster 4x4 World Circuit 5.927

WII - Klonoa: Door to Phantomile 5.800

WII - Sonic Unleashed 5.800

WII - Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! Kindan no Yami no Delta 5.400

WII - Let's Tap 5.400

WII - Major Dream: Major Wii Nagero! Gyroball 5.300

WII - SimCity Creator 5.100

WII - Happy Dance Collection 5.010

WII - Family Jockey 4.200

WII - Need for Speed: ProStreet 4.000

WII - Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity 3.700

WII - Bomberman Blast 3.600

WII - Survival Kids Wii 3.600

WII - Yatterman Wii: Bikkuridokkiri Machine de Mou Race da Koron 3.500

WII - Dance Dance Revolution Hottest Party 3.400

WII - Trauma Center: New Blood 3.100

WII - Imabikisou: Kaimei Hen 3.100

WII - Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 3.000

WII - Opoona 3.000

WII - Doraemon Wii: Himitsu Douguou Ketteisen! 3.000

WII - Bass Fishing Wii: Rokumaru Densetsu 2.800

WII - MySims Kingdom 2.700

WII - Major Wii: Perfect Closer 2.700

WII - FIFA Soccer 08 2.500

WII - Nodame Cantible 2.400

WII - Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Best) 2.400

WII - Onechanbara R 2.200

WII - Simple 2000 Series Wii Vol. 2: The Table Game 2.200

WII - Dance Dance Revolution: Furu Furu Party 2.100

WII - Gegege no Kitarou: Youkai Daiundoukai 2.000

WII - Hataraku Hito 2.000

WII - Jissen Pachi-Slot Pachinko Hisshouhou! 2.000

WII - SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the K. K. 1.852

WII - Choro Q 1.800

WII - Namco Museum Remix 1.700

WII - Anime Slot Revolution: Pachi-Slot Kidou Senshi... 1.600

WII - Samba de Amigo 1.600

WII - Disney TH!NK: Haya Oshi Quiz 1.600

WII - Tamagotchi no Furifuri Kagekidan 1.500

WII - Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 1.500

WII - Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 4 1.500

WII - Need for Speed Undercover 1.500

WII - The World of Golden Eggs: Nori Nori Rhythm Kei 1.400

WII - Jinsei Game Wii EX 1.400

WII - Guitar Hero III 1.300

WII - Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga 1.300

WII - Tomb Raider: Anniversary 1.300

WII - Dokapon Kingdom 1.300

WII - Dewy's Adventure 1.200

WII - Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI w/ P-U Kit 1.111

WII - Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 1.100

WII - Puyo-Puyo! (Special Price) 1.100

WII - Metal Slug Anthology 1.100

WII - Cars 1.045

WII - Samurai Shodown Anthology 1.000

WII - G1 Jockey Wii 2008 990

WII - Shikigami no Shiro III 970

WII - Osouji Sentai Clean Keeper 970

WII - Sega Bass Fishing 940

WII - Guilty Gear XX Accent Core 900

WII - Boom Blox 770

WII - Blob: Colorful na Kibou 730

WII - Pro Golfer Saru 720

WII - Table Game Wii 670

WII - Baroque 660

 

Japan PS3 Statistics:

Games: 136

Units: 7.388.197

Average: 54.325

 

PS3 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of Patriots 671.706

PS3 - Hot Shots Golf 5 408.175

PS3 - Dynasty Warriors 6 371.443

PS3 - Gundam Musou 317.580

PS3 - World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 316.533

PS3 - Devil May Cry 4 310.102

PS3 - Yakuza Kenzan 270.438

PS3 - World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 248.000

PS3 - Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 230.779

PS3 - Grand Theft Auto IV 185.198

PS3 - Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III 183.000

PS3 - Gundam Musou 2 162.000

PS3 - Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit 161.530

PS3 - Ridge Racer 7 149.648

PS3 - Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight 146.199

PS3 - Valkyria Chronicles 141.272

PS3 - Resistance: Fall of Man 136.492

PS3 - Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War 118.079

PS3 - Soul Calibur IV 116.055

PS3 - Samurai Dou 3 114.188

PS3 - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 110.869

PS3 - Virtua Fighter 5 97.321

PS3 - Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice 93.227

PS3 - Pro Baseball Sprits 5 89.887

PS3 - Armored Core: For Answer 84.155

PS3 - Armored Core 4 83.849

PS3 - LittleBigPlanet 82.397

PS3 - Assassin's Creed 82.277

PS3 - Boku no Natsu Yasumi 3: Kitaguni Hen 77.976

PS3 - Ninja Gaiden Sigma 76.095

PS3 - Initial D Extreme Stage 72.161

PS3 - Pro Baseball Spirits 4 68.831

PS3 - Afrika 61.000

PS3 - Motorstorm 58.227

PS3 - Siren New Translation 57.515

PS3 - Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 55.003

PS3 - Genji: Days of the Blade 53.780

PS3 - Lair 51.792

PS3 - Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi 50.329

PS3 - Eternal Sonata 49.132

PS3 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 49.114

PS3 - Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 48.316

PS3 - Resistance 2 45.000

PS3 - Time Crisis 4 44.141

PS3 - Lost Planet 41.237

PS3 - Cross Edge 40.116

PS3 - Imabikisou 39.299

PS3 - Enchanted Arm 38.703

PS3 - Formula One Championship Edition 38.307

PS3 - Folklore 38.305

PS3 - Heavenly Sword 37.236

PS3 - Need for Speed: Carbon 34.921

PS3 - Virtua Tennis 3 33.636

PS3 - Call of Duty 3 32.765

PS3 - Battlefield Bad Company 32.306

PS3 - Wangan Midnight 31.899

PS3 - Need for Speed: Pro Street 31.444

PS3 - Sonic the Hedgehog 30.390

PS3 - Rainbow Six Vegas 28.099

PS3 - Aquanaut's Holiday: Kakusareta Kiroku 25.315

PS3 - Mahjong Fight Club: Zenkoku Taisenban 25.036

PS3 - Agarest Senki 23.688

PS3 - Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 22.771

PS3 - Army of Two 21.623

PS3 - Rainbow Six Vegas 2 19.737

PS3 - Burnout Paradise 19.616

PS3 - Need for Speed Undercover 19.000

PS3 - SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation 14.569

PS3 - Miyazato San Kyoudai Naizou: Sega Golf Club 13.978

PS3 - Pro Yakyuu Spirits 5 Kanzenban 13.000

PS3 - Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom 12.949

PS3 - FIFA 09 12.588

PS3 - Haze 11.748

PS3 - Railfan 9.869

PS3 - Mahjong Taikai IV 9.163

PS3 - Mirror's Edge 8.300

PS3 - Medal of Honor: Airborne 7.900

PS3 - NBA 07 7.853

PS3 - Kane & Lynch: Dead Men 7.628

PS3 - The Eye of Judgment 7.531

PS3 - Saints Row 2 7.300

PS3 - Mercenaries 2: World in Flames 7.200

PS3 - MotorStorm 2 6.500

PS3 - NBA Live 09 6.085

PS3 - Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 5.400

PS3 - Spider-Man 3 5.000

PS3 - Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights 5.000

PS3 - FIFA Soccer 08 4.900

PS3 - G1 Jockey 4 2007 4.500

PS3 - Turok 4.300

PS3 - Mist of Chaos 3.921

PS3 - WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008 3.900

PS3 - Guitar Hero III 3.800

PS3 - NBA Live 08 3.800

PS3 - Sega Rally Revo 3.700

PS3 - Transformers: The Game 3.600

PS3 - Fight Night Round 3 3.415

PS3 - G1 Jockey 4 2008 3.400

PS3 - Battle Fantasia 3.100

PS3 - The Godfather: The Don's Edition 2.900

PS3 - Enemy Territory: Quake Wars 2.700

PS3 - Conflict: Denied Ops 2.700

PS3 - Dark Sector 2.500

PS3 - Vampire Rain: Altered Species 2.300

PS3 - Derby Time Online 2.200

PS3 - Metal Gear Online 2.000

PS3 - NBA 2K8 2.000

PS3 - Unreal Tournament 3 1.900

PS3 - The Darkness 1.900

PS3 - Stranglehold 1.900

PS3 - Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway 1.900

PS3 - Tony Hawk's Project 8 1.800

PS3 - FIFA Street 3 1.800

PS3 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PlayStation 3 the Best) 1.800

PS3 - Beijing 2008 - The Official Video Game of the Olympic Games 1.600

PS3 - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End 1.500

PS3 - Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga 1.500

PS3 - Motorstorm Complete 1.400

PS3 - Armored Core 4 (BEST) 1.400

PS3 - Conan 1.400

PS3 - Blazing Angels 2 1.300

PS3 - Rainbow Six Vegas (PlayStatoin 3 the Best) 1.300

PS3 - Yamasa Digi World SP: Pachi-Slot Sengoku Musou 1.300

PS3 - Skate 1.200

PS3 - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Map Download Special Limited Edition) 1.100

PS3 - Megazone 23: Aoi Garland 1.100

PS3 - Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PlayStation 3 the Best) 1.000

PS3 - Stuntman: Ignition　 900

PS3 - Gundam Musou (PlayStation 3 the Best) 900

PS3 - Guitar Hero: Aerosmith on Tour 850

PS3 - Enchant Arm (PlayStation 3 the Best) 840

PS3 - Armored Core: For Answer (PlayStation 3 the Best) 840

PS3 - Major League Baseball 2K8 620

PS3 - Railfan: Taiwan Takatetsu 600

PS3 - Boku no Natsuyasumi 3 (PlayStation 3 the Best) 590

PS3 - Madden NFL 09 500

 

Japan Xbox 360 Statistics:

Games: 188

Units: 3.536.411

Average: 18.811

 

360 - Blue Dragon 203.740

360 - Tales of Vesperia 155.477

360 - The Last Remnant 118.842

360 - Dead or Alive 4 111.991

360 - Infinite Undiscovery 109.630

360 - Lost Odyssey 109.517

360 - Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 95.002

360 - Halo 3 83.696

360 - The Idol M@ster Live for You! 75.272

360 - Ridge Racer 6 73.501

360 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 72.274

360 - Eternal Sonata 70.435

360 - Gears of War 68.270

360 - Dead Rising 68.078

360 - Lost Planet 61.555

360 - Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 60.544

360 - Assassin's Creed 55.261

360 - Devil May Cry 4 55.259

360 - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 53.501

360 - Soul Calibur IV 53.205

360 - Grand Theft Auto IV 50.382

360 - Ninja Gaiden II 48.854

360 - Idol Master 48.695

360 - Idol Master (Xbox 360 Platinum Collection) 47.344

360 - Dynasty Warriors 6 47.219

360 - Armored Core: For Answer 39.354

360 - Mobile Suit Gundam: Operation: Troy 38.182

360 - Ninety Nine Nights 38.019

360 - Fable II 36.000

360 - Fallout 3 33.000

360 - Forza Motor Sports 2 31.255

360 - Rumble Roses XX 29.187

360 - Crackdown 28.588

360 - Culdcept Saga 27.960

360 - Earth Defense Force 2017 27.087

360 - Gundam Musou 2 27.000

360 - Perfect Dark Zero 26.085

360 - Test Drive Unlimited 25.788

360 - Earth Defense Force 3 (Xbox 360 Pl. Collection) 25.596

360 - Battle Field: Bad Company 25.532

360 - Project Gotham Racing 3 25.058

360 - Dead Rising (Platinum Collection) 24.761

360 - Beautiful Katamari 24.747

360 - Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit 24.166

360 - World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 21.904

360 - Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 21.875

360 - Armored Core 4 21.096

360 - Virtua Fighter 5 Live Arena 20.774

360 - Enchanted Arms 20.233

360 - Bully: Scholarship Edition 19.177

360 - Saints Row 18.593

360 - Rainbow Six Vegas 18.592

360 - Oneechanbara vorteX 18.443

360 - Need for Speed: Most Wanted 17.973

360 - Rainbow Six Vegas 2 17.767

360 - Bullet Witch 16.241

360 - Lost Planet Colonies 16.167

360 - World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 16.083

360 - Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 15.994

360 - PlayOnline / Final Fantasy XI All-pack 2006 15.754

360 - Otomedius G 15.000

360 - Final Fantasy XI: Wings of the Goddess (Ex. D. D.) 14.808

360 - Orange Box 14.349

360 - Call of Duty 3 14.194

360 - BioShock 13.770

360 - Too Human 13.359

360 - Chrome Hounds 13.110

360 - Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin 13.052

360 - Tenchu Z 12.974

360 - Sylpheed project 12.283

360 - Project Gotham Racing 4 12.237

360 - Viva Pinata 12.184

360 - The Godfather 11.670

360 - Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka (Platinum Collection) 11.082

360 - Dynasty Warriors 5 Special 10.957

360 - Bullet Witch (Platinum Collection) 10.857

360 - Beautiful Katamari Damacy (Platinum Collection) 10.610

360 - Clannad 10.328

360 - 2006 FIFA World Cup 10.140

360 - Import Tuner Challenge 9.838

360 - Hitman: Blood Money 9.541

360 - Gundam Musou International 9.378

360 - Need for Speed: Carbon 9.373

360 - WarTech: Senko no Ronde 9.207

360 - World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 9.200

360 - Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War 9.145

360 - Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced War Fighter 8.903

360 - Army of Two 8.890

360 - Call of Duty 2 8.664

360 - Saints Row 2 8.600

360 - Prince of Persia 8.000

360 - Super Robot Wars XO 7.812

360 - FIFA 06 Road to FIFA World Cup 7.283

360 - Dark Sector 7.100

360 - Tomb Raider Legend 7.090

360 - Ninety-Nine Nights (Platinum Collection) 6.949

360 - Sonic the Hedgehog 6.647

360 - Unreal Tournament 3 6.634

360 - Battlefield 2: Modern Combat 6.581

360 - Oneechanbara vorteX (Platinum Collection) 6.333

360 - Splinter Cell: Double Agent 6.292

360 - Over G 6.292

360 - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent 6.292

360 - Gears of War (Platinum Collection) 6.211

360 - Raiden IV 6.191

360 - Overlord 6.137

360 - Warriors Orochi 6.059

360 - Shadowrun 5.723

360 - Pro Baseball Spirits 5.681

360 - Vampire Rain 5.623

360 - Kane & Lynch: Dead Men 5.501

360 - Far Cry 2 5.500

360 - Rumble Roses XX (Platinum Collection) 5.449

360 - Rockstar Table Tennis 5.448

360 - The Darkness 5.314

360 - Wrestle Kingdom 5.301

360 - Guilty Gear 2 Overture 5.300

360 - Just Cause 5.223

360 - Tetris Grandmaster Ace 5.184

360 - Kameo: Elements of Power 5.121

360 - Frontlines: Fuel of War 5.100

360 - Tengai Makyou: ZIRIA 4.944

360 - Samurai Warriors 2 4.929

360 - Burnout Paradise 4.500

360 - Mirror's Edge 4.300

360 - Need for Speed Undercover 4.100

360 - Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise 4.088

360 - Raiden Fighters Aces 3.800

360 - Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements 3.796

360 - FIFA 09 3.775

360 - Bomberman: Act Zero 3.713

360 - Strangehold 3.664

360 - Medal of Honor: Airborne 3.500

360 - Kengo: Legend of the 9 3.422

360 - Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires 3.408

360 - Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway 3.357

360 - Agarest Senki: Reappearance 3.300

360 - Zegapain XOR 3.254

360 - Condemned: Criminal Origins 3.213

360 - Play Online/Final Fantasy XI Vana'diel Collection 3.200

360 - Turok 3.112

360 - Shikigami no Shiro III 3.074

360 - Battle Fantasia 2.963

360 - Juiced 2: Hot Import Night 2.837

360 - Operation Darkness 2.818

360 - Mercenaries 2: World in Flames 2.700

360 - WWE 2007 Smackdown vs Raw 2.684

360 - Lost Planet (Best) 2.675

360 - Spectral Force 3 2.532

360 - Burnout Revenge 2.468

360 - Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock 2.437

360 - FIFA Soccer 08 2.400

360 - Tomb Raider: Anniversary 2.400

360 - Janline 2.379

360 - The Outfit 2.357

360 - Battlestations: Midway 2.300

360 - Every Party 2.271

360 - Zoid Infinity EX Neo 2.254

360 - Need for Speed ProStreet 2.200

360 - Absolute Blazing Infinity 2.064

360 - Armored Core 4 (BEST) 2.000

360 - Sega Rally Revo 1.902

360 - Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts 1.900

360 - Def Jam Icon 1.844

360 - Tom Clancy's GRAW (Platinum Collection) 1.622

360 - Love Football 1.593

360 - Call of Juarez 1.557

360 - Full Auto 1.553

360 - Flatout Ultimate Carnage 1.550

360 - Zoids Alternative 1.543

360 - Aquazone Life Simulator 1.527

360 - Peter Jackson’s King Kong: Official Game 1.526

360 - Momotarou Dentetsu 16 Gold 1.352

360 - Stuntman Ignition 1.200

360 - WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008 1.132

360 - Tony Hawk's Project 8 1.100

360 - Blazing Angels 2 1.100

360 - Skate 1.092

360 - Smash Court Tennis 3 1.000

360 - Conflict: Denied Ops 970

360 - The Elders Scrolls IV: Oblivion (XBox 360 Plutinum Collection) 780

360 - Conan 740

360 - Lost Odyssey (Platinum Collection) 740

360 - NBA Live 09 732

360 - Blue Dragon (Best) 709

360 - Assassin's Creed (Platinum Collection) 670

360 - NBA Live 08 600

360 - Fracture 540

[Hero-of-Time]

Wedbush Morgan’s Michael Pachter has told videogaming247.com that he expects Christmas sales for Nintendo Wii to be “up more than 100%†whereas he anticipates only a slight rise in 360 sales and a possible drop in PlayStation 3 numbers.

 

“I haven’t done the work for NPD yet, but my guess is that 360 sales were flat or up a little, PS3 sales down a little, and Wii sales up more than 100%,†said Pachter.

 

“That would end up around 1.2 - 1.3 million 360s, around 700,000 PS3s and around 3 million (or more) Wiis.â€

 

Pachter went on to say that his official estimates would be released early next week.

 

December’s NPD figures will be released on January 15.

 

Amazing if it turns out to be true.

[jammy2211]

Was that a new article? It took them about 12 months longer then even the dumbest of people that Sony's comeback hopes are over.

 

IT's all turning a bit stale at the moment, will be interesting to see what results from all this speculation of Sony shutting down various departments and whatnot. Can only see minor effecs on SCE but it's bound to keep the PS3's price well above the competition for a while still.

[Shino]

Lets see if devs keep ignoring.

 

Edit: OMG, wtf just happened! Someone help me get rid of this octa post!

[Blue_Ninja0]

Lets see if devs keep ignoring.

 

Edit: OMG, wtf just happened! Someone help me get rid of this octa post!

 

It's okay man...

It's gone now... it's gone...

[Zechs Merquise]

Amazing if it turns out to be true.

 

The funny thing is all the people who have been predicting this comeback by SONY! The PS3 actually sold worse this Christmas than it did in 2007! hahaha