Pestneb Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 just did some quick maths, and I found the revolution will be about 13 times smaller in volume than the xbox 360. at face value that could suggest the revolution will be 13 times weaker than the 360. however, it could alternatively suggest the revolution is 13 times more efficient in using its space (look at the cube vs the xbox), or more likely a mixture of the two. concept: a machine twice the power would need 4 times the size, so that would reduce the 360 to just over 3 times as powerful as the revolution. this is assuming the more powerful processor would need correspondingly more powerful cooling system, which would take more room. the 4 times the size figure may be significantly smaller, or significantly larger, it was plucked out of the air to suggest a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-zim Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 WOW. now i am confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
system_error Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 LOL. Worst speculation ever. I am sorry this "equation" is from a technical base completly wrong. Assuming that why is the PS3 not much bigger than the 360 but has 8 cores? Why is the PSP more powerfully than the DS even though they are about the same size. The PS2 has a fan and the PSP doesn't.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal_9Million Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 A sports car has less power than a lorry, but it's also smaller, so therefore it's performance is greater, and it's faster. It's not the power that counts, it's how you use it. I really don't care about specs as long as the games can rival the competition graphically. If Nintendo choose to reveal just screenshots and videos and no specs, I'll be happy, because specs just annoy me. Gamecube was technically less powerful then the xbox in terms of specs, but in terms of engineering, it was just as good. You only need to look at games like Resident Evil 4 and Metroid Prime to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit-Jr Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 The 360 looks GREAT in action, but is it 13x better than the Xbox? No Will the PS3 look 30x better than the PS2? No All these next-gen machines are gonna look sweet, but please dont buy into these 'exponentially better' claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 You all assume too much, and can somebody tell me the size of the revo and the xbox360? I was impressed at how big the 360 was in mark reins hand, maybe i'm just used to the gamecube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit-Jr Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Yeah i saw it in a display case at Wal-mart, its a beast. The Rev is gonna be tiny compared to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 What was the volume of the Gamecube compared to the PS2? And size really does not mean power, think GBA and GBA SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendofan64 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 not possible infact totaly impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 The PS3 is even bigger!! It'll MEGA dwarf the Rev!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_blade2006 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 numbers were never my greatest strength, but size is not always the measure of power, remember that! The revo may have more to offer than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phez_boy Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 for the xbox 360 to be 13x more powerful than the rev is a ridiculous theory to start off with... i doubt that the 360 is more than 5 times more powerful than the cube... so in order for it to be 13x more powerful than the rev would mean that the rev is actually about as powerful as the n64. lol dont think so. besides we have already heard that there will be no significant difference between the rev and the 360. so u can chill out for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfHyrule Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 A sports car has less power than a lorry, but it's also smaller, so therefore it's performance is greater, and it's faster. It's not the power that counts, it's how you use it. *Stands and applauds* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestneb Posted November 14, 2005 Author Share Posted November 14, 2005 for the xbox 360 to be 13x more powerful than the rev is a ridiculous theory to start off with... i doubt that the 360 is more than 5 times more powerful than the cube... so in order for it to be 13x more powerful than the rev would mean that the rev is actually about as powerful as the n64. lol dont think so. besides we have already heard that there will be no significant difference between the rev and the 360. so u can chill out for awhile. thats kinda the point I was trying badly to make. I was thinking about the people pointing out how much bigger the 360 is compared to the revolution, and saying that shows how much more powerful it is. I compared actual sizes, 360 is just under 8 times bigger than the revolution, possibly more. 3.2 Ghz/ 8 = 400Mhz. thats less than the cubes power. Out of interest, how big is the PS3? from what I've found on the net its slightly smaller than the 360 (under 6 times bigger than the revolution) PS3 about 6.1 cubic metres (142% PS2 size) XBOX360 about 8.3 cubic metres (107% xbox size) revolution about 1.1 cubic metres. (41% cube size) for comparison, cube is around 2.7 cubic metres, xbox 7.7 cubic metres and the PS2 (original) 4.3 cubic metres. by the way, my maths sucks, I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keit Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 By your calculations a oooold computer from the beginning of mankind would dwarf the hell outta the for example: Ps3 or Xbox360, or even some of the supercomputers! ^^ You, my lad, are stupidness itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestneb Posted November 14, 2005 Author Share Posted November 14, 2005 By your calculations a oooold computer from the beginning of mankind would dwarf the hell outta the for example: Ps3 or Xbox360, or even some of the supercomputers! ^^ You, my lad, are stupidness itself. yes, because super computers used the same level of technology as the next gen consoles have available. a more logical mock would be saying blue gene is obviously less powerful than the 360 and PS3 and revolution will be. except (unless you believe sony) blue gene being a super computer kinda implies it may be more powerful than a games console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasmasset Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 What a pointless discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerMonkey Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 my brain hurts :(:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero of Time Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 It's not true, the power of all the machines is the same (of course not exactly the same, but the difference shouldn't be that big) according to Next Gen developers. And even if the Revolution isn't as powerfull as the Xbox360 or the PS3, I don't care about it. The Revo is gonna OWN! No matter the specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyPunch Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 The Xbox360 is a power hungry beast, Microsoft had to put in a mighty big fan in order for it not to melt down. That's the reason why it's so big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 13 times smaller, are you kidding me? There's no way that's true. The Rev will have an external power supply and will 99% sure use the 65 nm manufacturing process for a big part of its components (including CPU and GPU) so it'll all fit in a much smaller box. The main reason for the size of the Xbox 360 and PS3 to be so big is their too powerful CPUs, which need MUCH cooling. The Revolution CPU will probably be clocked at more conventional clockspeeds for a PowerPC and they might even cool it without a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 sooo if you say is correct then my sega saturn is more powerfull then the GC? hey that must mean the computer is more powerful than all of the next-gen because it´s bigger! Think before you write...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestneb Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 sooo if you say is correct then my sega saturn is more powerfull then the GC?hey that must mean the computer is more powerful than all of the next-gen because it´s bigger! Think before you write...... if I had said that the xbox was 7 times bigger than the revolution, therefore the revolution was going to be 7 times weaker than the xbox, you'd have yourself a point. I didn't. you don't. take your own advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 The technology is at about the same level so Pestneb has a point, sort of. There's no way it'll be 13 times less powerful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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