Noku Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Greetings I am an avid mediaphile, and have been one for as long as I can remember. Last night, your decision to ban Manhunt 2 in the UK upset me. To such an extent even, that I felt as if the timetables had turned, and we were all living in 1930’s Germany, under totalitarian yoke. Allow me to clarify. I fully understand that you are wishing to provide parents of underaged children guidelines to raise their offspring in controllable environments, and wholeheartedly support the ratings-system you set as standard. Furthermore, I agree with the ratings’ concept and effects, ie, that underaged children should not be allowed to purchase games without the approval of corresponding legal guardian(s), and that, subsequently, M-rated games should not be sold to children. However, seeing as we all strive to live in a democracy, or at the very least pretend to, we are all to abide by the principles democracy represents. Thusly, we all have the right of free speech and freedom of thought, leading to the conclusion that censorship in a democracy is a paradox. Generalizing the above propositions to the affairs current, and given the fact that adults are their own legal guardian, banning a piece of entertainment from release for mature audiences is very much like forbidding a toddler to play with dolls, miniature cars, and other toys: totally and utterly useless, and atop of that, unethical. I can only conclude by saying that I grew up in an age where censorship-incidence was lower, while the games were of an even gruesome nature. I never much minded the ratings present on the box, and played every game from horrid to humorous. What I did have however, was a social environment telling me truth from fantasy, and the intellect to grasp that what one sees on the television screen, is not always a factual representation of factual behaviour. I thank you for the time you took in reading my letter of concern, and hope it has brought about a change in your reasoning. Sincerely Egon Rappé Aged 20 Belgium PS: I am aware that there is a press release under the news section. I read it multiple times, and based the above text upon it. I would request you prove you have read my personal release at least once by not sending me a generic reply, but by actually providing me with comments and remarks concerning my text. My thanks in advance. Before I send it, I'd like some notes on my use of the english language by some native speakers, if possible. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 That's a damn good letter. Also, you've got one cool name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePigMarcher Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Seems pretty well-written if you ask me. To save you some time though , this is the likely response you will receive. Dear (blanked out) Thank you for your email and your interesting comments. You will find it useful to read our press release regarding our decision on MANHUNT 2. This is available on our main website - http://www.bbfc.co.uk - under the section entitled 'news', and then 'press'. The release is dated 19 June 2007. Yours sincerely, J L Green Chief Assistant (Policy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Awesome name man! Oh and great letter :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noku Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 Seems pretty well-written if you ask me. To save you some time though , this is the likely response you will receive. Dear (blanked out) Thank you for your email and your interesting comments. You will find it useful to read our press release regarding our decision on MANHUNT 2. This is available on our main website - http://www.bbfc.co.uk - under the section entitled 'news', and then 'press'. The release is dated 19 June 2007. Yours sincerely, J L Green Chief Assistant (Policy) Solved? My solution too aggressive-sounding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Solved? My solution too aggressive-sounding? I think you could send the greatest written letter Earth has ever seen, and yet the BBFC would only send you back an automated response. At least, that's what I think. If you give it a try, you're not going to lose anything, apart from time, which we have plenty of. I just wish the BBFC and other organisations would take the time to write back more personalised letters and responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePigMarcher Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Agree with Flinky. Seeing as you have spent all that time constructing the email , send it anyway. Those fools (being polite here) at the BBFC deserve as many emails as possible for their decision , even if it is a largely fruitless task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Noku, ROFL at your PS section to the letter. If they send an automated one back, I think you should send a really angry one at them. (angrier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noku Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 Sent Und now we play the waiting game... Will let you lot know when they reply, and how :p Thanks for the help lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fields Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 What does the BBFC have to do with Belgium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I guess it's that the bbfc started the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 It REALLY hit me today why the banning of Manhunt is so retarded: The game doesn't even look realistic and we know it isn't real. I chainsaw people all the time on Gears...yet I don't feel anything weird about it...I watch a gorey film, and feel off. And with a lot of those films, they dive u in as much as any game. Saw 3 made people sick and caused others to feint...and yet the BBFC wont even let a lil game through the net, it's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Though your letter is well-written, it's not really making a strong point to send in a letter as a foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I still haven't got a reply from them about my letter. Maybe cos I asctually asked them information and it requires them to send me real answers so will take longer. Anyone from the UK who is sending an email to the BBFC, please Cc it to your local MP. The only way that their decision can be overruled is by local government so getting the issue noticed there is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fields Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Anyone from the UK who is sending an email to the BBFC, please Cc it to your local MP. The only way that their decision can be overruled is by local government so getting the issue noticed there is very important. LOL, are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4q2 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Though your letter is well-written, it's not really making a strong point to send in a letter as a foreigner. I dunno....I provides a view from the outside world imho. Anyways, if anyone else emails them, rather than using the generic enquiries address, it may be worth trying [email protected].... If the bbfc use the same system as most companies for creating email accounts, that one may hit the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Yep. I feel strongly about the government giving society back its ability to make its own decisions. For instance, if a child watches or plays something out of their appropriate age then is should be the parents that get hammered, not the game. Retail will have done all they can to stop adults buying the game for their children and won't sell it to children themselves. It is also linked to the those stupid insurance companies who try and "win" you money for your accident where you were too stupid to not break your own legs. People need to take more personal responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fields Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Remember this is New Labour we're talking about, architects of the nanny state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Yep and I'm conservative/liberal... :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookyman Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Yep and I'm conservative/liberal... :shrug: Don't get me started! Liberal I can live with but Conservative???? I tell you if David Cameron tried to hug a hoodie round here he'd have a baseball bat wrapped round his head. Cant be arsed with his hippy, sycophantic, public schoolboy views - or is that just me? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 conservative as in i prefer people to be treated as individuals rather than as memebers of a state. I think that people who make the effort to earn deserve to keep it, for several long winded reasons. But you're right, Cameron does seem to be a bit of a wet fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirtynine. Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 conservative as in i prefer people to be treated as individuals rather than as memebers of a state. I think that people who make the effort to earn deserve to keep it, for several long winded reasons. But you're right, Cameron does seem to be a bit of a wet fish. So we should have flat rate tax right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Eeeek! I dunno. You need to talk to other people more authorised in my department about that... :runs away: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Man, that letter was annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJoe Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 So we should have flat rate tax right? I believe he said conservative, not Conservative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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