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I agree that if your gaming needs aren't met by one console then whining isn't an option; buying a 2nd platform is. This situation is a little different though. Releasing METri on the other platforms for price A, and then just a few days later release 1/3 of the Trilogy on WiiU for higher price B, just beggars belief.
In this case Nintendo fans have the absolute right to complain. No offence but multi platform owners need to get off their high horse once in a while and realise a lot of people are only in the position to own one console, and make their choice.
Reggie made a promise (maybe not quite a promise, but a statement) this gen that they want Wii U owners to only need one console - minus exclusives - so if that isn't delivered on, Nintendo fans have even more room to gripe and moan this coming gen.
Multplat owners, good for you.. lend me a tenner.
Hell I AM a multiplatform owner and this move pisses me off! Fuck EA (as if I needed any more reason to hate them )
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I have no interest in the series or any of EA's other titles, despite owning every console, and did not intend to pick up the Wii U version.
However I see this action as a complete insult to me, fans of the series who were interested in the Wii U version and to Nintendo themselves.
Whether it's being done on purpose or not, EA has set this game up to fail and I view this as a no win scenario for Wii U owners.
If it succeeds, then EA will conclude that they can get away with low quality efforts for Wii U in the future. If it fails (which is the likely scenario), they will probably cut off any future noteworthy support completely.
It's the same garbage Wii owners were fed by the 3rd parties who refused to give the console any significant support. I don't expect EA to give the Wii U the time of day and that's fine by me; I'll just give my money to the publishers and developers who actually choose to give the console solid support (and the Wii U's lineup looks just fine even without them)
Wii got a lot of quality 3rd party games, despite it being snubbed from the likes of EA and Take Two. If the Wii U's 3rd party support no better or only slightly better then we'll still have a lot of quality titles to look forward to - despite the lack of effort from the likes of EA.
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WOOT!!! We get Mole Mania next week!
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/nintendo_3ds_virtual_console/mole_mania_55039.html
Been wanting to play this for years!
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I now have a Dark Note with Miratete's Memoirs as an available item. Discovered it thanks to the Libra ability.
The problem is it's dropped by Boss 2, and I only ever seem to fight Boss 3.
Is there an easy way to get Boss 2 instead?
I think there may be but I'm not sure, sorry. All I know is that you need to go past the signpost in the FMS in order to get to Boss 2 & 3.
Try hitting up GFaqs?
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Finding it very amusing how one of the only flash cards that still works on the 3DS after the latest update is an R4. I would of thought Nintendo would be aware that R4 is still around.
That card just so happens to have save IC support. The way that Nintendo has blocked these cards is by checking whether or not the card that is inserted has proper save IC hardware and if it doesn't (which most flash cards do not), the hardware is blocked.
Unfortunately, they can't outright block R4 cards through a hardware check. They're stuck using the same whack a mole software check methods that they've been using for a while now.
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interesting stuff thanks for that link. EA have a terrible history of acting like a spoilt child so that conspiracy theory isn't that crazy to believe.
Exactly. If EA hadn't tried this sort of crap before I wouldn't give it the time of day.
However, all the facts fit the rumour (it also predicts the release of Mass Effect Trilogy to boot!), Peter Moore did go to Japan to meet with Iwata and this is exactly the type of thing that EA is known for doing in the past.
Regardless of whether or not it's actually true word for word, I bet this will be used as a scapegoat for their crappy/non-existent future support on the console.
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Very interesting, explains a lot. It still seems very silly of EA to do this. If other 3rd party titles sell well and the WiiU is a hit they will lose out more than anything. What an absurd strategy to render one of your flagship titles on a system redundant! Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!
Oh, hi Wii! Completely forgot that you ended up getting shafted the same way...
I think you're utterly insaneNo way would they purposeful sabotage sales of a game because of a grudge, it's just ludicrous on absolutely every single level. If like you say they are in tatters then they will want every single success they can get.
And where did you read the wii u is breaking records?! Unless you mean shopto saying its outsold other preorders... but where they even about when the wii and ps3 came out? If they were they weren't as big and known as they are now.
Well... more extreme examples have happened before... [cough]EA shafting Dreamcast after being denied complete exclusivity - Tales of Graces being released on the same day as FF13 in Japan and then conveniently having an enhanced PS3 version ready to go less than a year later[/cough]
Nah, obviously EA are just stupid and don't realise that they're killing off a project that they actually believe in...
But it doesn't matter. I don't expect EA to provide any Wii U support whatsoever after this debacle. They've set it up to fail for a reason and all that's left for us to do is to look elsewhere at the likes of WB Games, Ubisoft and Activision - the publishers who are actually supporting the console...
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EA are cunts but this conspiracy theory is getting ridiculous. If true they just wouldn't release anything on the system
Their stock is tanking, the current gen console market is in tatters and there's a new console on the horizon that is breaking all pre-order records (which is also coming off the back of one of the most successful consoles of all time and one that EA publicly admitted that they missed out on) and is perfectly capable of running their games without breaking a sweat - and also where PS360 ports cost relatively little to produce.
You try justifying not releasing anything on the system at all to your pissed off investors
The ME3 port was a sweetheart deal to try and gain Nintendo's trust in the first place, to get their foot in the door and wriggle their way into negotiations to get Origin on that system as the backbone of Nintendo's online service, where they take a cut of royalties (just like the stunt that Sony almost pulled on Nintendo that ended up destroying the SNES CD attachment and creating the Playstation). Once that plan failed, they fast tracked development of MET/ME1 PS3 in order to get it out of the door and kill ME3 Wii U stone cold dead.
Why else do you think they would release a trilogy pack just a mere 9 months after the launch of ME3? (before even the GOTY edition of ME3 got released!) - releasing before ME3 Wii U and at a cheaper price to boot!
EA are not stupid, they know what they're doing here. The ultimate proof will be seen when the inevitable excuses come out about how ME3 Wii U's failure means that they won't be supporting the Wii U in the future. Don't expect any significant support throughout the console's entire lifetime (if it gets any EA support from beyond this point at all!)
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Fun fact: Mass Effect Trilogy is supposed to cost 49,99€ in Europe, whereas Mass Effect 3 for Wii U is listed at 69,99€ among many retailers
Yeah. ME Trilogy comes out earlier and is cheaper than ME3 Wii U.
OH MY! FUCKING LOL!
PS: Regarding this conspiracy "nonsense" That old Reddit rumour did actually mention a release of Mass Effect Trilogy on Wii U...
As an reward, EA received development kits even before Ubisoft, Valve or Tecmo Koei. Many of EA's studios were interested, especially Bioware who have been wanting to put their own games on a Nintendo system for ages and finally had the technical ability to do it with a Mass Effect Trilogy port and Dragon Age 3 on slate for the system.Oh and this was several months ago, LONG before knowledge of this collection was made public...
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So I'm genuinely up for turning this fully on EA and helping an effort to completely VITO this edition. Anyone who is buying a Wii U needs to understand who poor value for money this is going to be.
No need. EA have already VITOed it themselves. This version will bomb harder than MGS3D (and that's exactly what they want to happen...)
It's just like the Capcom tests that you can't win. If it sells, then it means that EA can get away with shovelling shit at us with no value at full price and will probably give us Mass Effect On Rails Edition. If it fails, bye bye support all together...
The only thing we can hope for is that Nintendo do something about this themselves. They're the only ones who can do something about this situation (be it sorting out some sort of temporary moneyhat deal, a dedicated Origin store on eShop, or publicly shaming EA and denying them the right to publish on their platform altogether)
Oh and now this comes out of EA...
Lol! Who is ME3 WiiU aimed at then?
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Where did you get nunchuks for £4.99?
Game were recently clearing stock of original style Classic Controllers and Nunchucks for a fiver a piece. Couldn't resist picking up a couple of fresh ones at that price!
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Conspiracy theories might be fun, but in reality its in EA's best interest for the Wii U to be a healthy platform. It's pretty silly to suggest they're out to sabotage it, much more so that they want their own products to fail.
There are currently over 120 million PS3 and 360 consoles in people's homes and zero Wii Us. Publishers are risk-averse at the best of times, so it's not surprising that they're reluctant to bankroll projects for unproven hardware. Is this a self-fulfilling prophecy to an extent? Sure, the Vita's a great example of that. But it's cowardice, not conspiracy.
Makes perfect sense to snub Nintendo if they can't steal away their royalties. Their company philosophy is much more intertwined with Microsoft (especially with Peter Moore as their internal mole) and to a lesser extent, Sony.
Having a strong Microsoft and Sony is much more beneficial to them than having a strong Nintendo, because their relationship with those two is far better. With EA sharing a very similar vision of where they want gaming to go as with MS and Sony (big super high budget titles where they only need to throw graphics and marketing money at a project to succeed, without worrying about gameplay - an eventual scenario where only they will survive - and dominance in the mobile/social space by acquisition), supporting Nintendo to any significant extent simply doesn't fit into their plans. Securing Wii U Origin exclusivity would've been a massive coup that was worth pursuing however if they could trick Nintendo into falling for it (like they did with Sony and the original SNES CD addon)
This is what EA do. They've done it time and time again. They're liars and crooks; always have been and always will be.
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Woahhhhhh, slow down. You're not serious are ya
That rumour is months old and I see no reason to not believe it (hell I actually predicted that EA would try to pull a Sony/Nintendo Playstation way back in 2011 when they appeared on stage and then later those comments from Iwata at one of their shareholder meetings came out about them wanting to work with an outside partner on the Wii U online service...)
It's also the type of thing that EA has pulled before in the past (see what they did with completely abandoning the Dreamcast after failing to blackmail SEGA into giving them exclusive rights to all sports games on the console...)
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Surely they have no choice now but to put this 'on hold' and instead release the trilogy on Wii U at a later date within the launch window?
I mean it'd be the right thing to do, but then again with EA publishing it...
Of course not. The only reason why this Trilogy pack even exists (at least this early - it probably wasn't going to be released this early, certainly not within 9 months of ME3 itself launching!) is to ensure that the Wii U version is DOA, thus providing the perfect excuse to kill off any future support for the Wii U when it "fails to sell to expectations".
EA are backstabbing Nintendo in response to them refusing to make Origin the exclusive online service that runs all Wii U titles/eShop. It's also why Madden 13 and Fifa 13 Wii U are both gimped in comparison to their PS360 counterparts and why they're shy to announce any future support. An "unprecedented partnership" indeed...
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Just bought a couple of new nunchuks for the first time since Wii launch day and am surprised to find that the thumbstick is rubberised and the underside has more texture. The original ones are as smooth as a baby's arse in comparison.
Can't believe I've been gaming with it all this time
Funnily enough I just bought a new old style Classic Controller and Nunchuck myself! Feels lovely
TBH, Nintendo controllers hold up nicely even after years of wear and tear though. They've come a long way from the days of N64 controllers (broken analog sticks) and SNES controllers (broken start & select buttons, mushy d-pad)
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So I finally got it! It's... weird! Best way I can describe it is like Metroidvania with Zelda style puzzles - though with almost no handholding at all!
I'm not too far into it (Still in the 2nd area of the ruins) but I'm really enjoying it so far. Jumping takes some getting used to, but I think I've got the hang of it now!
Combat is straight out of Castlevania (knockback and all!) and I can already see that there will be plenty of backtracking to do later on. Good stuff!
Music is absolutely ace as well!
There's a real sense of discovery when you figure out a puzzle, that kind of warm fuzzy feeling you get from solving the types of fiendish puzzles in Zelda. Great stuff!
Edit: OMG! The Holy Grail lives up to its name! Oh man, I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't find it...
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I see Japan is getting Mario Golf Gameboy Color version next week. Jammy gits!
No mention of multiplayer or transfer pak support though
Maybe when MG64 hits the Wii U VC?
Edit: Wow! Australia is getting VVVVVV next week (October 4), damn that's late!
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I recently sent an email to Nintendo asking about the power supply being applicable in different regions, and some of their response pertains to Cube's argument, vaguely however:
Here's their response to my email; (I highlighted interesting parts)
Dear Lee,
Thank you for your email.
The Nintendo Wii U console will be region locked as with its predecessor the Nintendo Wii. Region locking does include but is not limited to, the games released for the console, both physical and digital copies and use of online services will vary between regions.
Any console purchased in one region and being used in another may have an issue with the power supply. If you do not obtain a power supply for the console from the region you are using it in, you will have to use a pin/power converter, and the use of third party products such as this is not recommended by Nintendo.
The online services offered in each region on the console will require an internet connection from the same region. If you use the console outside of the region it was sold in you may find that you have limited or no internet functionality.
We hope this information answers any queries you may have and that you enjoy the Nintendo Wii U and any other Nintendo products.
Kind regards,
Dan
Nintendo UK
That's almost certainly referring to services like NintendoTVii or BBC iPlayer, which would all be IP locked (as all VOD services are) or certain MMO games like Dragon Quest 10 (where the Wii version is IP locked). The vast majority of games however would be perfectly fine.
They're probably just covering their arses and playing it safe with the responses. There's absolutely no reason to believe that they'd use one and indeed no reason to use one. It's completely against their own (and their 3rd party publishers') self interests to do so (and also would make internal testing much more difficult!)
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There are legitimate, probably financial reasons why this would be the case with the examples that you have given. Pokemon is a huge guaranteed seller with massive merchandise business so it's natural that they would have more resources localise.
A lot has to do with how the game is developed in terms of how connected the text it, how carefully it needs to be translated and so on.
Another point about US > EU localisation. US localisation usually only has 2 languages English and Spanish, if not just English. EU however has the full EFIGS (English, French, Italian and Spanish) if not more. So you have twice as much translation work to do.
So there are a lot of different reasons why the time varies. But let's face it, there are few times when you getting a game a bit later than you would like does little more than aggravate a gamer's need to have it now.
Kirby Superstar Ultra had almost no text to speak of (and even had the original full EFIGS SNES version's localisation already done - which was almost the same as the DS version's text barring a few very minor changes) NOE has always treated the series poorly (Mass Attack and Kirby's Return to Dreamland/Kirby's Adventure Wii being the only exceptions) and even now are not releasing the Kirby Anniversary Collection...
Why should we just accept their shabby treatment of the series? Why shouldn't we complain? How is it unreasonable to expect a game with almost no text to get released within a year after its US release?
This isn't Animal Crossing GCN we're talking about here!
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My company deals with shipping goods in and out of the country as well as dealing with UK, EU and US laws and regulations on radio use and licensing the EM spectrum. From that point of view, I"m aware that every single territory has a myriad of different requirements that cannot all be met by one single product and so this leads to different products being produced for each territory.
Thanks to the different tax laws, this also means that companies have to completely re-price products to balance value as well as profit/loss. It's a horrible and fucking difficult balance.
To make sure that products meet the expectations of the customer and the laws of the territories different products have to be produced and the areas in which they are released contained.
But hey, it's not like I can't sympathise with some customers that want to get games released in their territory. In some cases games might sell better if they were allowed to be purchased overseas, as I know that in particular fan-crazed cases people would happily play them in a language that they don't understand!
But what I can't accept is people who complain about time differences of release. Harvest Moon on the GCN I get and that was stupid but people getting pissed about a game not coming out within 6 months of it's counterpart in a different territory? Get over it.
EDIT: Oh and great and logical words from Jayseven.
Now they may have very good reasons for instituting region locking and I perfectly understand why they do it, but that does not mean that we shouldn't complain about hefty delays that happen for no good reason (see Persona 4 Arena)
I don't expect simultaneous worldwide releases with every game, but having Europe wait 6-12 months after the US (or even vice versa with recent cases!) is inexcusable. There was no good bloody reason for Europe to have to wait a whole year for Kirby Superstar Ultra to get released in the EU, when that same company was perfectly able to release Pokemon B&W, the Zelda titles and even the last two Animal Crossing games at roughly the same time in both regions!!
And for those games which would have no chance of a western release and have little Japanese text, why not just allow people to buy them from an import section on the eShop? (like with Deathsmiles 2 on the 360). Hell they already do it with the VC!
Region locking in some form is arguably a necessary evil, but that doesn't mean that there aren't better ways of handling the situation and enabling people to buy and play the games that they would otherwise be unable to.
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A target camera...as in a lock-on?
WTF? HELL NO....that is just something to stop the n00bs from bitching that they can't get their timings right.
Bloody hell, that better be optional
It's not a lock-on. All it does is make it so that the camera swings to face the monster when you press L (instead of swinging to behind your character like it normally does) and yes, it is entirely optional (when using it, double tapping L makes it swing to face behind your character as normal too!)
There's a good video explaining it (and the rest of the touchscreen stuff) here: Skip to about 3:15 for the Target Camera stuff
Relax, it's not a Zelda style lock-on; not even close.
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when did this happen?! i will have to check that out
You're welcome, oh and before you ask, yes it will work on your UK PS3 perfectly fine without issues
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OMG guys, OMG.
Aside from the abysmal load times, my other criticism of MH Tri was the lack of a lock on.
It's not a true lock-on (that would destroy the core gameplay that makes Monster Hunter what it is!) but rather it's an option that makes the camera turn to face the monster when you press the icon (or L) instead of turning to behind your character like it normally does.
Don't expect a Zelda style lock-on.
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Wrong. It discourages other western 3rd parties from releasing games on the Wii U. That means less potential games that take advantage of the Wii U's unique capabilities, less unique experiences and a smaller potential market for the small developers that I actually care about.
As a multiplatform owner who wants to see a healthy market develop, for all types of games from all manners of developers, on Wii U where they are free to come up with games that provide all manners of unique experiences that take advantage of the Wii U's unique functionality; you bet your arse that EA's snubbing of the Wii U affects me!