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Just to ask again... Why in the end does Dent seek his revenge on Gordon? I don't really see that Gordon played any part in Dents storyline. Is it just that Gordons an authority role model or what? Also... Whilst I thought Maggie Gyllenhaal [or however you spell it!] did a good job, I thought it was stupid recasting a character you're going to kill off. Keeping Katie Holmes would have been the better choice imo, as I think recasts are a little difficult to take.

Yeah I definately heard that, but then confusion set in! Thought the petrol scene was just so the audience knows he got petrol on his face, it certainly didn't help me in any other way.

I think the most confusing part is Batmans reaction when he arrives at Dent. I heard the Joker tell Batman two adresses. And I heard Batman say "Rachel!", when Gordan says 'who are you going after' or words to that effect. But when Batman kicks the door in and its Dent, he just immediately goes through the door and carrys Dent out... no hesitation. And that's what completely threw me, the lack of a reaction. It made me think, hmmm... maybe Gordan said 'who shall WE go after?'... [batman]... "Rachel!". It just left me with no idea, and thinking Batman had chosen Dent over Rachel! All you see immediately after Batman kicks the door in, is Rachel, and hear Dent over the phone shouting 'no... why me... not me' or something! Which also makes it sound like Batman chose him. I think it plays out poorly, but hey! Question: Why in the end does Dent seek out revenge on Gordon? What did he do?

That'd be cool. Thought you meant a DKC level, with vines to swing on, rideable minecarts [like the skateboard in the demo] and such.

More Heavy Rain:

Where are these surveys?! Out of that list I would choose: - Appearance of past characters - Conclusion to the Umbrella battle - Wii version - Vast amount of extras and hidden elements after clearing the game [can't believe that wasn't ticked!] Surely it's way to late to be changing any story info though!

Well clealy not if so many people were 'WTF just happened' by it.

Well sure he has most of his face covered, but he certainly didn't react in any suprised/shocked/shit WFT! kinda way. Everything just seemed to play out.I realise upon seeing Dent he just got on with getting him out, but still!!

haha! Yeah I thought "main four" was abit of a wierd comment. Who would they be considered as anyways? Peter, Claire, Hiro and Sylar I guess?

I think the red on the costume should be the colour of the cape, if not even darker still, and the cape should just be black.

Nah I think they've got to ditch the red, green, yellow colours! I think a similar suit to Batmans would be the way to go. Grey and Black, and if they had to maybe a slight burdandy tint to some of the panelling. EDIT: ^ actually yeah! Something along those lines, only more 'real' looking like Batmans!

They make the point in the IGN article though that it's important to draw parallels between Bruce's experiences/emotions when he lost his parents and Robins situation.

Found this a really good read... IGN talks whether Robin could cut it in Nolans universe, http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/896/896638p1.html

Hayden and Milo, talk about what you can expect from their characters in Season 3. Hayden: Thankfully no more West then! Milo: With all these villians running about, Peter is gonna become one souped up powerhouse!

I don't think anything comes close to Toy Story, though I havn't seen Wall-E yet. Nemo, Monsters Inc, The Incredibles... they are all good watches, but imo not in the same league.

McFarlene joins in on Venom 'spin-off' talk: And, Megatron is back...

I think Finding Nemo is incredibly overated. It's no where near the same level as Toy Story 1/2.

Hmm yeah I quite like looking at it in that way. I think the thing was I just wasn't that keen on Dent/Two Face anyways, and the fact he took alot of time away from the Joker was dissapointing. But yeah I can see that all three characters have an interwoven story that is dependant on each other and I guess that does work.

Maybe a stupid question but how do you ge your own images into the game? SD cards or something?

I know, I said that. During the film I thought I'd misheard the Rachel part and that he had chosen to save Dent. This annoyed me for the rest of the film.Now that I know I'd heard right about Rachel and that actually the Joker had switched locations, had I been assured of this in the film I could have enjoyed the rest more. No I completely got the messages that the film put out.And that Batman was preserving the image of Dent to give the city hope. Well Two-Face did feel rushed to me, he was only Two-Face for about 20mins on screen. The transition in character happened to quickly because surely it would make more sense for his immediate anger to have been focused on revenge on the Joker; as he scared him and killed Rachel. The policewoman he went played far less a part, and why go after Gordon and his family? It felt a bit forced; did they only do those two parts so they could setup the whole White Knight/Dark Knight factor. And you bring up another point. 'Batman being the hero they don't need', I felt it was quite a jump from Begins. In Begins he saves the city; when he's Wayne you here citizens talking about the good Batman is doing, catching these criminals, delivering crime lords. Sure the police don't like it, but apart from them you get the feeling everyone is generally happy to have him around. But then already in the second film he is having to be 'villianised', I thought this came about to quickly.

Saw it today... Thought it was great but I think atm I prefer Begins more. But I really believe this film needs a second viewing. I thought TDK had too many characters in it to do them all justice. - There wasn't enough Batman - There wasn't enough Bruce Wayne [i enjoyed his fake playboy personna scenes from BB, they added some moments of relief] - There wasn't enough Alfred - And most importantly, imo there was no way near enough of the Joker! The Joker could and should have carried this film I thought. And for me, the heavy inclusion of Dent took something away from the sublime performance of Heith Ledger. It almost felt to me ultimately neither character were done fully and I felt Heiths Joker was truelly deserving of a film all to itself! I think Dent should have had a minor/cameo/background part in this film, maybe getting scarred right at the end and setting him up for the third film alongside The Riddler or someone. I thought both characters ended up having their endings rushed towards. I didn't really believe in Dents all to quick character transformation and I really wanted to see more of the Joker. I thought it was a real shame. I also felt [as others in here have said] that they didn't make the Rachel/Dent choice clear enough. I heard Batman say he was going after Rachel, or at least I thought I had, but when he turned up at Dents I just persumed I'd miss heard or something. And consequently it actually partly ruined the remainer of the film for me because I just couldn't understand why he'd chosen Dent. If I'd been sure of what had happened whilst watching the film it probably would have upped everything for me instead of leaving me with a feeling of 'WTF did you just do Bruce, she was the love of your life and you just let her die as if she was of no great importance!' Other opinions related to topics in this thread: Batmobile - FTW!! Batpod - equally cool! Next Villian - Riddler [and Scarecrow will probably crop up again] Robin - No Way Catwoman - undecided, might work, but maybe should just leave her out.

too chocolatey, not a fan really.

That was 2003 and such an awesome bizarre race! As I remember it, Kimi was given the win on the day and then he handed the trophy back to Fisichella. Here it is... this clip is well worth a watch: I just don't understand how Alonso wasn't told!! The commentary was some of James Allens worst ever! And urgh, all the talk of Hamiltons 'Air of invincibilty'... Maybe McLaren should start using that in his tyres!

And how long has everyone been into F1? I think my interest in the sport started around 2000. I remember watching Hakkinen and him being the first to kick start my interest. I certainly remember this move making me take notice! Then my interest grew, following more races, taking an interest in teams and the drivers names. Then when Kimi came on the McLaren scene in 2002 and really took a hold of things in 2003 that cemented it for me and I've been a die-hard F1 and Kimi fan ever since!