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The missions have been pretty terrible. Completely unmemorable.

I'll probably be on at 8. Going to head to the gym. Also, off topic @Eddage that TV I got is fucking epic.

I'll probably be on at 6, unless I go to the gym.

I wonder if they'll push this back because of TLG delay.

I don't think I'll be around. Thanks, though

Looks good. I can't help but feel totally out of the loop with the community and people on here, probably more because it's been so long since playing it than anything else.

Birds of Prey basically confirmed.

Well, I pre-ordered a PS4 Pro, so you can start the count at 1 unit sold.

I think there will be AT LEAST literally dozens sold.

Honestly, there's no reason you shouldn't also do cardio if you want. Just make sure you make up the calorie deficit it creates (if you need to).

Next to the Plus folder titled 'Shovelware'.

Has it improved at all since Wednesday? Remember you can always focus on other things. Maybe legs, or even flexibility/mobility. I wouldn't worry too much about losing progress. These things happen and there are ways of dealing that can actually be productive in the long run.

Timing worked out perfectly. Ha Honestly, we've waited how many years already? What's a few more months?

Yaaaas Persona 5. Just as long as TLG isn't delayed... I already knew

Yeah, it's a pretty great perk. I'm sure if you shop around you can find a it under the RRP.

Employee discount through a friend.

A 55" Sony XD80 4K HDR TV. £759 including delivery. Not bad at all. Anyone know about buying warranties? I couldn't get anything beyond the standard year because of the discount.

So I ordered a 55" Sony 4K HDR TV. Including delivery it was only £759. So I'm pleased with that.

How many Ks and HDRs does it have?

Essentially it was about presenting a version of the PS4 that would work with incoming TV standards (and better suits VR). I don't really get the issue people are having; your PS4 isn't lessened by the Pro's existence. It's not a PS4.5; it's a PlayStation 4 that's upwardly compatible. If you don't have a 4K TV you don't need it. If you do have a 4K TV, you don't necessarily need it either but hey, all PS4s have HDR now so...have a taste of that. If anything, this has future proofed this generation for another few years. Basically, you don't need it but if you still don't have a PS4 this might be the one you want (because a lot of us here payed £350 three years ago that can't output in HDR or do 4K)...or there's the PS4 Slim, which is now cheaper. It's like the 64DD. Except it's scalable and built in to all new models. I thought everyone liked options? Here are your options.

Sony didn't rush this. This generation, if you haven't noticed, has been done completely on their watch. The best decisions they have made, they did on their own time and this is really no different. The Pro is a completely different proposition to the Scorpio. Microsoft may be gloating, but they've really got shit-all to gloat about. They're hemorrhaging XBL subscriptions while PSN is making bank. Their hardware sales are lethargic against Playstation's (and Scorpio coming out next year isn't going to do anything to the ever more affordable PS4). Their gaming portfolio is nowhere near as diverse as Playstation's (although they have quite deservedly stolen the racing audience with Forza while Sony let Kazunori Yamauchi drag them down with slow and weak GT releases). And their demographic is younger than PlayStation's; the audience with very minimal disposable income. On paper, Scorpio looks like it's going to be laughing but the reality is quite different.

No way, Scorpio is a BEAST, it's a whole step up from the PS4 Pro. That thing is a 4K native machine. The PS4 Pro is an 'up to 4k' deal. I only have so much money and I've got to prioritise. It just makes more sense to invest in my TV/PS4 set-up before VR; the VR software library is still in its infancy so I think I'll be getting more bang for my buck with an upgraded TV/PS4. I'm still excited, but I'm happy whenever I switch my PS4 on so I might as well consolidate that experience...if that makes sense. Also, 4K Netflix. Ha

Scorpio is going to cost a lot. There's no chance its going to hit £350. By which time the PS4 Pro will have settled into the market, likely with space to drop its price if needed. It's weird because Microsoft's market skewers much younger than PlayStation's and yet it's Xbox that's going to offer the premium product. I don't think it'll work for them.

So...what do you propose they do? It's kind of the same issue as VR; you can't be told how good/immersive/whatever some of these things are, you need to experience them. You aren't really wrong though, I was watching it and thinking it was literally absurd that they were trying to show off something that I knew couldn't be shown – like a weird inverse Emperor's New Clothes. But they need to start somewhere. I think the hands-on – much like with the VR – have been really positive, so while the meeting was a bit surreal, if you ask me, they've handled a very difficult position as well as they possibly could have.

My favourite reaction has been about the HDR; "I see no difference!"; "Looks the same to me."; yeah, no fucking shit poindexter, you're watching a shitty stream on a non-HDR, non-4K screen. Cerny, "Old screens literally cannot display the whole gambit of colours, brightness and intensity of new screens." T'internet's response, "I can't see all these new colours, WTF?" This is like when HD was the new thing and people couldn't see the difference, until they had the capability to.